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You're Not The Only One!
Finallly, we are out again.
Legacy: only Amiga chart 2006-2024, and released between 2004-2024
OCS note:
if you run on A500, you n nM*eed 1 MB memory this time.
So far best of our knowledge with 060: start Versus 10 without workbench.
OS4: no known issues.
- Credits Versus #10 anniversary issue -
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mained: Browallia/Nukleus,
coed: Ghandy/Nukleus, Puni/Void, Cefa68000/Nukleus,
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DI #%SKMAG ENGINE
Amiga 500: Menthos/Nukleus
OS4: Menthos/Nukleus
GFX:
Title pic: Facet/Lemon.^S16
Panels: Browallia/Nukleus
MUSIC:
'puniversus10' by Tecon/Planet Jazz^Desire
'morning wood' by Assasin/Void
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ARTICLE CONTRIBUTION:
briteLite/Dekadence^RNO, Critikill/SWEET16, Cefa68000/Nukleus, Darkhawk/IRIS,
deadguy (interv Jliewed), Ghandy/Nukleus, greippi/Zymosis^Limbo (interviewed),
Jazzcat/Ghostown, jPV/RNO, Judge Drokk^ex Anarchy, MDW/Encore (interviewed),
Menthos/Nukleus, Puni/Void, Radiant, Ramone B5/Desire (interviewed),
Romeo Knight/Brainstorm, saiibot/Nukleus, scamp (interviewed),
Smaugur/Nukleus, STI/SCA, tecon/pjz^dsr, truck/Accession, v3nom, Weyland, Wix,
Wolfman/Balance, Zerox/Gods and Browallia/Nukleus
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SURVEY PARTICIPATION:
Archmage, cheetah, dan dee, Facet, farfar, Frost,
malmix, Prowler, Razorback, Slayer, xeNusion
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DISKMAG EMERITUS, main-editor appearances from:
D.I.S.C, Eurochart, },Jurassic Pack, Stolen Data,
Taboo, Upstream, and Cows n Snakefights
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Vote sheet (paper) at: GERP 2024, Revision 2024 and 68k inside 2024,
vS-logo on sheets: Frost/Tulou (also used in the Facebook/twitter channel)
asc2 vote sheet vS#10: bOhEmE
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Ver 8sus staff:
Balder, cefa68000, Ghandy, Menthos, Smaugur and Browallia of Nukleus
hukka, Emufr3ak, and Puni of Void
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Thanks to: malmix/Nature, esau/Traktor, ricky martin/DKD^RNO^JML and styx for
a helping hand with projector work at Gerp, 68k inside and revision this year.
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Thanks to you all making this happen
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(2 pages) OVERVIEW ARTICLES Browallia & Puni Editorial (2 pages) Credits V b E N@ersus #10 vS-staff Disclaimer Menthos & Browallia OCS engine and delayed info Browallia How to contribute Vote info + Voters list Mod3m The Deep Meet / Darkage The Making of Ramon B5 interview The making of ChipChop #17 Five Finger Punch Insights: winning demo at GERP 2024 ascii scene: 30 left? Critikill We love the sweet nostalgia of art Ghandy & Browallia Bitfellas.org - too many scene portals? News around the Globe Zerox & Browallia Battle online -vS- diskmags Wix The Rise of the b F ژcAAncient Black Bird Radiant & Weyland edison reflection (2011 - 2023) R.I.P. GERP: master or underdog? Greippi's AI demystified MDW interview I've one game that I can recommend... deadguy interview catch n congrats: PACiF!C Scamp interview Breakpoint vS Underground conference on SceneCity Pls skip those demoscene video reports! Smaugur Party rapport Reunion Party 2024 Ghandy Revision 2024 - A walk around the party v3nom 10 years Deadline party: expectations jPV Making BBS Compatible R b G ۢeleases Puni Demos on AmigaOS 4 - An Overview tecon PT-Weekender event #8 event report Purple: an e-love story novel neOkOrTex R32 BBS ad The Sam460LE - AmigaOS 4 Compatible Sys. Grill & Chill party report from DevLab by 11 graphicians AI survey among Amiga graphicians AI editorial thoughts intro Darkhawk editorial thoughts: on AI Jazzcat Judge Drokk Zerox Greippi interview TM2: making of chatGPT Exploring Diverse Perspectives on AI Cefa68000 AI is a bubble hype Wolfman Shaped by a s b H cene a brief summary of 2 decades STI SCA: Comeback by accident & Britelite Twisted music article by Romeo Knight saiibot a firstie's impressions charts: Better luck next time Essence of texts - time to sign off CHARTS BEST DEMO BEST INTRO BEST 4K (or less) BEST MUSICDISK BEST GROUP BEST CODER BEST GRAPHICIAN BEST MUSICIAN BEST ASCIIAN/ANSIAN BEST WWW/BBS/PORTAL BEST PARTY (2022-2024) BEST NEWCOMER / COMEBACK MOST IMPORTANT EVENT 1985-2024 (FUN) p61Init failed!
-- b I VR}-------- MOST IMPORTANT EVENT 1985-2024 (for fun) ----------------- 1 Amiga opening 1985 (Lincoln Center, opening NYC) 13.12 2 World of Commodore 1992 (WoC 92) 11.31 3 The Party 1994 (TP IV) 10.86 4 AMIIIGAAAAA shout (Amiga shout) 9.50 5 End of Commodore (downfall, bankrupcy) 9.05 6 Breakpoint 2010 b J _x 8.60 7 GERP 2024 8.14 Revision 2019 8.14 9 Revision 2023 7.24 Amiga37 2022 7.24 11 Amiga38 2023 6.79 --------------------------------------------------------------------- (): Synonyms b K y 100% +: more voters same points The for-fun category got least amounts of votes (<2 votes or <= 10 points filtered out). Synonyms are grouped to same vote. ---------- BEST NEWCOMER / COMEBACK ----------------------- ________ GROUP __________ 1 Andromeda 26.82 2 Darkage 19.55 3 Spreadpoint 9.32 _____ SCENER _______ 4 Cosmic Orbs b L 7.50 1 Gigabates 38.28 5 Melon Design 7.05 2 Hyde 19.53 6 Batman Group 6.82 3 Spook 14.84 7 Binary 6.36 4 Modem 14.06 Talent 6.36 5 Kris 13.28 9 The Twitch Elite 5.23 10 Alcatraz 5.00 ----------------------------------------------------------- 100 b M 9% 100% Votes in this category were both on sceners and groups, so it was fair to split the category. ---------- BEST PARTY (2022-2024) --------------- 1 Revision 2024 (DE) 25.32 2 Gerp 2024 (SE) 20.16 3 Revision 2023 (DE) 14.40 4 68k Inside 2024 (FI) 5.16 5 Ev b N ⮃5oke 2023 (DE) 5.06 6 Gerp 2023 (SE) 4.87 7 Edison 2023 (SE) 4.67 8 Gerp 2022 (SE) 2.78 9 TRSAC 2023 (DK) 2.58 10 Pagadata 2023 (SE) 2.48 11 Assembly (Summer) 2023 (FI) 2.38 Deadline 2023 (DE) 2 b O [.38 13 Revision 2022 (DE) 2.28 14 Nova 2022 (UK) 1.89 15 Montainbytes 2024 (CH) 1.79 Xenium Party 2023 (PL) 1.79 ------------------------------------------------- (): Country code 100% +: more voters same points ---------- BEST WWW/BBS/PORTAL ------------------- b P cD------------------------ 1 Pouet (pouet.net) 35.94 [2] 2 Demozoo (demozoo.org) 30.04 [1] 3 ADA, Amiga demoscene archive (ada.untergrund.net) 5.60 [3] 4 Aminet (aminet.net) 4.71 new! 5 scene city, SceneCity (scenecity.site) 3.68 new! 6 Scene.org (files.scene.org) 3.24 [14] 7 b Q gg Kestra bitworld, Janeway Excotica (janeway.exotica.org.uk) 3.09 [4] 8 Retro32 (BBS) 2.95 new! Bitfellas (bitfellas.org) 2.95 [8] 10 Metal Impact (BBS) 2.65 new! the Yard (BBS) 2.65 new! 12 The Northern Palace (BBS) 2.50 new! ------------------------------ b R {w-------------------------------------------- []: previous rank or new! 100% +: more voters same points ---------- BEST ASCIIAN/ANSIAN ---------------------------- 1 ne7 / scx^3ad^rbs^dS (a) 19.81 [3] 2 Sk!n / deZign (a) 11.51 [2] 3 h7 (velikani) / Accession^DS^imp^TRSi (a) 11.38 [4] 4 Goto80 (G80) / Divine Stylers^HnT^UP (a) 9. b S =B10 new! 5 yop / Shrimps Design (a) 8.17 [11] 6 Dipswitch (dip) / Divine Stylers^UP^imp (a) 7.36 [1] 7 Zeus (zS!,Plur) / Style^Mystic^Lo'Pro (a) 4.55 [6] 8 bOhEmE (bHe) / Style (a) 3.88 new! 9 h2O / Arclite^Rebels (a) 3.75 [8] 10 Corel / iNSANE^FFP (a) 3.35 [7] irokos (iks) / Impure (a) 3.35 b T ? new! 12 Sim-one (sim,simone) / Thelo0p^WT (a) 3.21 [17] 13 aNACHRONiST / imp^Void (a) 2.81 new! 14 Kempy (kem) / K0re^Aerosol (a) 2.68 [5] 15 Acidbrain / Pungas De Villa Martelli (a) 2.54+ new! Dino (dNO) / Divine Stylers^UP (a) 2.54 new! []: previous rank or new! 100% a: active artist (see DB on nukleus.nu) b U 73 +: more voters same points ---------- BEST MUSICIAN ---------------------------------- 1 Virgill / Haujobb^Alcatraz (2024) 24.45 [2] 2 H0ffman / Unstable label^TBL^FD^TTE (2024) 19.63 [1] 3 Jazzcat / Ghostown^PSL (2023) 9.22 [4] 4 Maze / Desire^Moods Plateau^RSE (2024) 8.12 new! 5 AceMan / Dreamweb^Resistance (2024) 4.57+ [6] mygg / iNSANE b V ꋌ6 (2024) 4.57 new! 7 lug00ber / Spaceballs^Boozoholics (2024) 4.48 [17] 8 Esau / Traktor (2023) 3.89 [5] 9 Pink / Abyss (2024) 3.55+ [7] ok3anos / The Electronic Knights^NCE (2024) 3.55 [13] 11 Xerxes / FLEX^Triumph (2023) 3.21 new! 12 Teo / Focus Design (2024) 2.96 new! 13 Soda7 / Darkage b W 5"f (2024) 2.88 new! 14 Goto80 / Up Rough^HnT (2024) 2.62 new! 15 Magnar / TBL^NAH^SCX^LMN (2024) 2.28 new! (yyyy): last active Amiga production ---------- BEST GRAPHICIAN -------------------------------- 1 Facet / Lemon.^SWEET16 (2024) 16.30 [1] 2 Critikill / SWEET16^Haujobb^Rebels (2024) 15.70 new! 3 Optic / Desire^Focus Design (2024) 9.65 b X .|)[6] 4 Slayer / Ghostown (2023) 9.51 [4] 5 Prowler / Cosmic Orbs^Nectarine (2024) 8.98 [3] 6 Made / Bomb^the Deadliners (2023) 8.65 [2] 7 Jade / SWEET16^TEK^Desire (2024) 5.99 new! 8 Farfar / Loonies^FLEX (2024) 4.72 [10] 9 Vasyl / Joker^SWEET16 (2024) 3.99 new! 10 Louie500 / The Black Lotus (2020) 3.79 [9 b Y 툽=] 11 Archmage / Andromeda (2024) 3.19 [8] 12 Ozan / The Electronic Knights (2024) 2.66 [12] 13 Exocet / Up Rough^Spaceballs (2024) 2.59 new! 14 Alien / PDX^DSR^RBS^Megahawks inc. (2023) 2.33 [14] 15 Frost / Tulou (2024) 1.93 new! ---------- BEST CODER ------------------------------------- 1 Bifat / The Electronic Knights (2024) 15.34 [1 b Z ƧJ2] 2 Slummy / Spaceballs (2024) 13.03 [3] 3 Blueberry / Loonies^Fnuque (2024) 9.90 [1] 4 Platon42 / Desire (2024) 8.49 new! 5 Loaderror / Ephidrena (2023) 7.22 [4] 6 Britelite / RNO^Dekadence (2024) 7.07 [6] 7 Kalms / The Black Lotus (2019) 7.00 [7] 8 Rhino / Batman group (2023) 5.96 new! b [ I` 9 Hyde / Andromeda (2024) 5.06 new! 10 Leonard / Oxygene (2024) 4.99 new! 11 emoon / The Black Lotus (2019) 4.17 [2] 12 Gigabates / Desire (2024) 3.13 new! Stingray / Scarab^Scoopex (2024) 3.13 [11] 14 Pink / Abyss (2024) 3.05 [19] 15 Dan / Lemon. (2024) 2.46 [5] b \ c ---------- BEST GROUP ------------------------------------- 1 The Black Lotus (TBL) 15.19 [4] 2 The Electronic Knights (TEK) 14.37 new! 3 Desire (DSR) 10.90 [11] 4 Lemon. (LMN) 8.92 new! 5 Spaceballs (SPB) 8.59 [2] 6 Ghostown (GTN) 7.60 [1] b ] fH- 7 Andromeda (AOA) 7.35 [11] 8 FLEX 4.62 new! 9 Loonies (LNS) 4.13 [3] 10 Abyss (AYS) 3.72 new! 11 Melon 3.06 new! 12 Nah-Kolor (NAH) 2.89 new! 13 Ephidrena (EPH) 2.56 [6] b ^ s 14 Haujobb (HJB) 2.15 [13] 15 Focus Design (FD) 1.98+ [10] Elude (ELD) 1.98 [5] ---------- BEST MUSICDISK ------------------------------------------- 1 Cheesy Listening / Alcatraz^Offence^RBS (2022,OCS/ECS) 14.55 new! 2 Chipchop #17 / Desire (2024,OCS/ECS) 9.25 new! AmigAtari / Oxygene (2020,O b _ cCS/ECS) 9.25 new! 4 Knight Chips II / TEK (2024,OCS/ECS) 8.75 new! 5 Chiperia #11 / The Chiperia Project (2024,OCS/ECS) 8.38 new! 6 Extravaganja / Nerve Axis (1999,AGA) 8.26 [4] 7 Mel 'O Dee's 2 / Resistance (2024,OCS/ECS) 6.17 new! 8 Chipo Django #2 / Bitshifters^Rabenauge (2023,OCS/ECS) 5.67 new! 9 Kiss My Jazz / Appendix^PSL (2001,AGA) 5.55 [8] 10 PreAmp 2 / N b ` ynectarine (2021,OCS/ECS) 4.19 new! Stuck somewhere in time / iNSANE^UP (2014,OCS/ECS) 4.19 [4] 12 Preschool #2 / Abyss (2019,OCS/ECS) 4.07 new! Crystal Symphonies 2 / Phenomena (1992,OCS/ECS) 4.07 new! 14 Mel 'O Dee's / Resistance (2021,OCS/ECS) 3.95 new! 15 Preschool #1 / Abyss (2018,OCS/ECS) 3.70 new! []: previous rank or new! b a xu 100% ---------- BEST 4K (or less) ---------------------------------------- 1 Ikadalawampu / Loonies (2010,4K,AGA) 16.23 [1] 2 Candiru / Spaceballs (2023,4K,OCS/ECS) 11.77 new! 3 Psylteflesk / Ephidrena (2008,4K,AGA) 9.67 [3] 4 4 Seasons / Binary (2024,4K,OCS/ECS) 7.68 new! 5 Luminagia / Loonies (2009,4K,AGA) 6.82 [2] 6 Finnmark / Ephidrena b b L5 (2004,4K,AGA) 6.69 [9] 7 Glenz 1k / Desire (2024,1K,OCS/ECS) 5.45 new! 8 4kASM / Lemon. (2021,4K,OCS/ECS) 5.08 new! 9 Octorubber / Loonies^Pacific (2014,4K,OCS/ECS) 4.96 [5] 10 Second Rodeo / Fnuque (2023,4K,AGA) 4.71 new! 11 Alice Copper / Ephidrena^Scarab (2008,4K,AGA) 4.09 new! 12 Painter's euphoria / Loonies^UNS (2015,4K,OCS/ECS) 3.97 [ b c 11] 13 Unicode Attack / Five Finger Punch (2022,4K,OCS/ECS) 3.47 new! 14 Hex Junkie / Fnuque (2022,4K,OCS/ECS) 3.22 new! 15 Bier / Ephidrena (2000,4K,AGA) 3.10+ [18] A hymn to hipparchus / Offence^BRS (2019,4K,OCS/ECS) 3.10 [4] ---------- BEST INTRO ----------------------------------------------- 1 Desire FM / Desire (2024,40K,OCS/ECS) 13.46 new! 2 Electric Lifeforms / Ghosto b d V
wn (2023,64K,OCS/ECS) 13.24 new! 3 Disiplin / Spaceballs (2024,64K,OCS/ECS) 10.23 new! 4 Goon Royale / Spaceballs (2019,64K,AGA) 8.07 [1] 5 Coda / Abyss (2019,64K,OCS/ECS) 7.32 [2] 6 Everyway / Hoffman^Blueberry (2016,64K,OCS/ECS) 6.46 [15] 7 A Murder of Scrolls / Andromeda (2024,40K,OCS/ECS) 6.03 new! 8 Soil / Alcatraz (2024,40K,OCS/ECS) 5.92 new! b e E 9 Point Of No Return / DHS^EPH^SMFX (2024,40K,OCS/ECS) 5.60 new! 10 Gift / Potion (2000,64K,AGA) 5.06 [3] 11 Way too rude / Logicoma^Loonies (2020,64K,OCS/ECS) 4.74 new! 12 Circumvent / The Twith Elite (2024,64K,OCS/ECS) 4.41 new! 13 Done / Abyss (2022,64K,OCS/ECS) 3.66 new! 14 D-funk / Desire (2023,64K,OCS/ECS) 3.12 new! 15 For real / Spaceballs b f D (2023,40K,AGA) 2.69 new! ---------- BEST DEMO ------------------------------------------- 1 Batman Rises / Batman Group (2022,OCS/ECS) 19.35 new! 2 Eon / The Black Lotus (2019,OCS/ECS) 16.62 [1] 3 Hologon / The Electronic Knights (2020,OCS/ECS) 8.78 new! 4 HAMazing / Desire (2023,OCS/ECS) 7.93 new! 5 Starstruck / The Black Lotus (2006,AGA) 6. b g uybs48 [9] 6 Transhuman/Pachinkoland / TEK (2022,OCS/ECS) 5.80 new! 7 Cycle-Op / Oxygene (2023,OCS/ECS) 4.94 new! 8 Rule 30 / Andromeda (2021,OCS/ECS) 4.35 new! 9 The Loop / Ghostown^Haujobb (2023,OCS/ECS) 4.18+ new! Nexus-7 / Andromeda (1994,AGA) 4.18 [9] 11 Desert Dream / Kefrens (1993,OCS/ECS) 4.01 [13] 12 Brut b h " alism / Capsule (2019,AGA) 3.50 [6] 13 Neocolora / Darkage^Lemon. (2023,AGA) 3.32+ new! State Of The Art / Spaceballs (1992,OCS/ECS) 3.32 new! 15 Clubisque / DHS^EPH^INS^LMN^SMFX (2023,OCS/ECS) 3.24 new! ---------------------------------------------------------------- []: previous rank or new! 100% +: more voters same points b i w0 VERSUS 10 - the anniversary charts by Nukleus and Void vote online start: 25.02.2024 stop: 29.05.2024 --- CHARTS --- BEST: Demo BEST: Intro BEST: 4K or less BEST: Musicdisk BEST: Group BEST: Coder b j λ BEST: Graphician BEST: Musician BEST: Asciian/Ansian BEST: Scene site/portal/BBS BEST: Demoparty (2022-2024) BEST: Newcomer/Comeback FUN: Most important Amiga events (1985-2024) Essence of texts - time to sign off - good bye number two --------------------------------------- b k YΘ by Browallia/Nukleus _ / \_ haracters, still the most powerful tool anno 2024 to deliver a message in the computer scene. Not by pictures. We do it when choosing that demo title, sample names in your protracker song, that snurkel-scroller or in that ascii collection. The scene from the 1980s, now 40 years laters, characters forming words and sentences is the way for clearest messages. To state an opinion. To tell a perspective. To share your personal view. GOOD BYE NR 2 Now b l %Դ its time for me to wave goodbye as the maineditor of your favorite magazine. It has been more than nice, a pleasure to serve the scene with this. I know you are tired to hear it, but 2 decades doing Versus is leaving traces. Already 5-6 years ago, I offered others to take over, but didnt get any takers. We may be too crazy. And only people in the writing soup business know the work behind. For you, it may look like characters, gossip, opinions, and easily produced texts page up and b m page down. Well, scrollers are easy to write. But to pack it to a concept, something that you want to read, requires a bit of effort. We are competing with blogs, one-liner-trolls and a comment-based community. On avarage, a pouet thread consist of 5-10 people writing 1-3 sentences each. Out of that, you can never get a clear picture of discussing it to an end. Imagine if our newspaper would consist of communitybased one-liners. - Pure democracy you may argue. - Pure rubbish 9 out b n of 10 comments, and please try to sort out the noice I would say. THERE IS NO SPOON - EVERONE IS A STONE? I have been open with from beginning of Versus, that everyone's story is important. But to get people to write more than a 1-3 sentences in a community, it starts to smell like a task. And what we hate in our lives are tasks. When the days are over, you will remember the essence of texts, not the one-liners. Only one-liners you remember are from ancient past like big philosofe b o p rs, poem writers or maybe from that movie... People can write, everyone can write thats true. Because we all have the story to tell. Then, do you want to listen to someone else, is up to you, or just bring out your one-liners? The teamwork with Void to do this has always been a pleasure and we have worked fantastic together. Thanks also to voters and sceners I have come across. We have served the scene, and the voters show non-ego acts by voting on others. Articles have been written b p oυand we have continued the legacy of holding this alive for Amiga. We got +70 voters in the charts in this anniversary issue and multiple people (30, more?) contributing. Thats a lot, and we know it. I know that this issue you have in your scrolling hand was good, and I tried to hint-peak this in the seduce-tro Votebastards from Nukleus. I was sitting with royal straight poker hand... because of YOU. now its time to royal straight _flush_ away Versus 10.... IS IT YOU? Now, before you b q Nƛ ask yourself. No. Versus is not declared dead. I sign off as mained, thats all. We see how this goes. Maybe someone else want to take over this baby? Maybe someone wants to start new charts? Maybe, someone is actually you? Where you see sand here, imagine water. /Browallia logging off . From Versus #8, we reduced the charts displayed from TOP-20 to TOP-15. If you dont find your name in the chart-section, maybe you find it in the bottom ranks here? All of the b r D-%Kse displayed in this bonus-section got more than 10 points, and minimum two votes (most of the botto ranks got more than this minimum amount of votes). Who knows, maybe we assist future researchers to provide this extra data of Amiga trends? To all of you not in the charts but displayed here, we just want to say: Better luck next time. DEMO bottom rank 16-20 (previous rank in []) ------------------------------------------------------- Rink a dink redux/Lemon. (2013, b s OCS/ECS) Arte/Sanity (1993, OCS/ECS) [18] The Fall/The Deadliners^Lemon. (2018, OCS/ECS) [2] Blood Sugar Rises/AttentionWhore (2023, OCS/ECS) Sojourn of the Soul/FLEX (2023, AGA) scroll down for more... INTRO bottom rank 16-20 (previous rank in []) --------------------------------------------------------------- Fat Circuits/Alcatraz^Offence^Rebels (2023, 40KB, OCS/ECS) Darkroom/Stellar (1994, 40KB, OCS/ECS) b t #0@ [4] logic OS/Logicoma (2022, 64KB, OCS/ECS) Colombia/Lemon. (2020, 64KB, OCS/ECS) Everything Turns/Rebels (2023, 64KB, OCS/ECS) 4K (or less) bottom rank 17-20 (previous rank in []) ---------------------------------------------------- Cubescapes/Dekadence (2014, 4KB, AGA) [6] Ikanim/Loonies (2004, 4KB, AGA) [7] Noxie/Loonies (2005, 4KB, AGA) River Snake/Fnuque (2022, 4KB, AGA) MUSICDISK bottom rank 16-20 (previous rank in []) Jesterday/Sanity (1992, OCS) Knigh b u gvt Chips/The Electronic Knights (2023, OCS) The Future Sound/Density Design (2020, OCS) Chiperia #6/The Chiperia Project (2016, OCS) [1] Digital Chips #33/Desire^Moods Plateau (2021, OCS) GROUP bottom rank 17-20 (previous rank in []) --------------------------------------------- Batman Group (BG) Alcatraz (ATZ) Offence (OFC) Rebels (RBS) CODER bottom rank 16-20 (previous rank in []) Noname [9] Photon Kiero [8] Morbid Losso GRAPHICIAN bottom rank 16-20 (previous rank in []) --- b v
----------------------------------------------- Jok [5] Bracket Malmix [10] Razorback Fade One [7] MUSICIAN bottom rank 16-20 (previous rank in []) ------------------------------------------------ Jogeir Liljedahl JosSs Interphace Dascon [3] Curt cool [9] Triace ASCIIAN/ANSIAN bottom rank 16-20 (previous rank in []) ------------------------------------------------------ FuZioN [13] dMG [12] Pogue Azzarro [10] Mortimer Twang SCENE S b w . =ITE/PORTAL/BBS bottom rank 13-17 (previous rank in []) ------------------------------------------------------------- aBSiNTHE (BBS) coppershade.org thE qUAntUm wOrmhOlE, tqw (BBS) AMP, Amiga Music Preservation [10] English Amiga Board, EAB, Abime [5] DEMO PARTY (2022-2024) bottom rank 17-20 (previous rank n/a) ------------------------------------------------------------ 68k Inside 2023 Xenium Party 2022 Decrunch 2022 Decrunch 2023 NEWCOMER/COMEBACK - too few votes to compile bottom b x h
ranks --------------------------------------------------------- MOST IMPORTANT AMIGA EVENTS 1985-2024 - too few votes to compile bottom ranks ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thats all folks, please go home. a firstie's impressions --------------------------- by saibot/Nukleus Well, I have now been to my first demo party: Reunion 24 in Kvidinge (Sweden). It was a v b y
XGJery nice experience with a bunch of new releases to enjoy. The demo scene is quite new to me, so I had only some expectations which have now been confirmed positively. I was particularly impressed by Fairlight's c64 demo as well as the nice song 'Petscii och Findus', also by Fairlight. Also Blueberry's 128 byte(!) demo was cool as well as deadguy^PACiF!C's Pong-resembling contribution. I also got help by some elites to set up an emulated Amiga on my computer, specifically Photon^Sc b z =oopex, who installed the system and gave me an introduction to coding Amiga demos and Blueberry^Loonies who fixed his own assembler editor AsmPro so that I have now been able to start learning the art of coding assembler code for Amiga. Now, I can keep working on this and maybe I have myself contributed to a release next time. Reunion 24 was an amazing experience with cool music (from Fluke73) and nice people whom I look forward to meet again. I love the creativity the demo scene e b { +Vncourages along with the great atmosphere I enjoyed at the party. Extra thanks to Jesper who fixed my Internet issue. A tip to everyone is that it's not a good idea to go to a LAN/demo party without network cable or WiFi! PROLOGUE Two persons in a galaxy far far away from the Amiga, but still connected to this Universe due multi-talented passions are Britelite and Romeo Knight, alias Peter and Eike. Peter is in a band called Putrid Defecation and Eike is playing in Drown in embers. W b | wg'e zoom out from protracker and calibrate to their guitars. But we want to do this with a twist: lets find out what they know/think of each other. intro-riff: about yourself first - what age how you got interested in music apart from the computer scene? Eike (Romeo Knight): | Peter (Britelite): Hard to be precise here but the real | I got interested in hard rock and fascination for music basically | metal at around 6 years old, when started aroun b } x`d the age of 11 when I | around 6 years old, when discovered synth music for the first | discovering the time. | likes of Iron Maiden, | AC/DC and Kiss Also, the pop music charts back | then in the early 80s was heavily | infused with synth sounds which kept | me listening to this stuff. The | interest in guitar music came up way | later. | b ~ "5 What's your favourite accord/riff/scale? Eike: | Peter: I love playing sus2 chords on guitar, | One of my all time favorite riffs i's basically a power chord with the | is probably the main riffs is octave moved one full step up. In | probably the mainriff in Orion by regards to scales, I have no idea what | Metallica. these are called, but I often like | exotic scales that neglect all | diatonic b Rurules and shapes, they can | sound really cool in context of metal | music. And too many awesome riffs | out there. Your favourite guitar? Hahaha, since I'm a guitar collector | I don't really have a favourite also, all of them. :-) But to break | guitar, but for example the Warlock it down, the top 3 would be my | guitars look awesome even if Jackson Warrior US Custom Shop, | extremely cheesy. Skervesen Nebelung 6 b hLand Ruf Doctor | Schrödinger 6. | Ok, now lets twist the scales, Romeo Knight will talk about Britelite's band and vice versus. Eike about Peter's 'Putrid defecation' | Peter about Eike's 'Drown in embers' | Describe the other's music with one sentence? Heavy noise. :-) | Modern Progressive Metal would b ǦX | probably be a suitable term. Do you think he has as rolemothers or inspiration source? Certainly, probably the oldschool | I think they're drawing inspiration Death Metal bands like Cannibal | from other bands close to their Corpse, Morbid Angel or | genre, but can't really hear any Deicide but also some noisier punk | one bands influence in the sound. stuff that follows no rules. He will | certainly be able to giv b Re a better | answer to this. | Do you hear similarities with his scene involvement and his music? Nope. :-) | Not really, other than using guitars | in some of his scene works. Do you think his scene alias and the guitar man has dual personalities depending on stage, or same coat so to say? No. Why would you need a dual | Kind of, in a scene con b Mtext I'd say personality for making very different | he gets to be in the spotlight while kinds of music? The love for music in | in a band context he's more of a general is already enough. | team player, working for the common | good of the band. What music genre is popping up when hear his band name? Eike on Putrid defecation: | Peter on Drown in embers: Based It sounds exactly as the name b q2 | solely on the name I'd have guessed suggests. :-) | it would be some kind of metalcore | or post-hardcore. Who has the darkest soul? I'd suppose it's a close call but | I don't think either of us have then, he is a Finn. | particularly dark souls, Eike has | seemed like quite a positive guy when b 8 | I've met him. Who of you would give a cookie to a stranger? I have no idea what to answer. | Both probably :) Here a few song names from the other's band. Pick one you find coolest: 'Explosive Public Toilet Diarrhea' | 'Disrupt the Flow' 'Summoning the Waste Demon' | 'Infinity Declined - A Retrospective 'Rectal Fume Asphyxiation' | of a Friend' 'Cyclus' First one because it sounds the most b 9S | Of those three I'd say Cyclus is my fun. And I have definitely witnessed | favorite. this happen once | (not self-inflicted though!). | Describe the typical audience in front of his stage? Drunk nordics. | I would guess Drown in Embers draws a | 20-to 30-something year old crowd, | with probably at least a few guitar b ` | nerds in there :) What do you think he would say to his crowd between two songs on stage? 'I shat my pants doing that last growl' | Maybe nothing, to keep up the | mystique of his guitar wizardry. The manager of your band says: 'ok, include one of these lyrics line, else no contract.' Which do you grab, and which line do you recommend to his lyrics? 1. 'Three blood b ?y mary - to me, John and Jerry!' 2. 'It feels like climbing a stair made of mudd' 3. 'The owl died with a final ho-hooo' 4. 'The cave smells rotten like a wing clipped Atari-falcon' I'd recommend all of the lines to | I would probably go for number two, Britelite, since it's impossible to | and I'd guess understand any of the vocals anyway. | 'the owl died with a final ho-hooo' :-) Which song do you like b
l most from his band? Eike on 'Putrid Defecation': | Peter on Drown in embers: I really I hate to be honest here, but I'm not | like the song Stockholm. too fond of the music, basically | because this type of Metal is really | nothing I'd usually listen to at all. | It's a totally different approach to | a Metal band in general, also the | production sounds too unpleasant to | the ears (even though I know that's | on purpose). But I'm not he b tDre to diss | Peter's music, it's just not my cup of | tea and he's got much more fans and | followers than my band anyway, so | he's totally doing it right. But | music is 100% a matter of taste, | there's just no way to argue | around it. Is it you or the other who spend most time in the merch area after a gig? No. | Probably me :) Tell three things that he should have in his music video to make it attract b d5ive? Eike to Peter: | Peter to Eike: AI-created piles of shit seem | - Definitely some demo like visuals appropiate. However, it definitely | - Of course the band playing, but needs to violate youtube's terms. | not the typical djenting in a colored | room | - No long intro sequences Who is sacrifying time with family and friends to hang out with his ba b WSnd most, Eike or Peter? How should I know?! | I would guess Eike, as it seems his | band has more live performances Do you think his band would be more happy about a cover from Taylor Swift than you? Definitely. | Both bands would probably be happy, | or at least suprised :) b ! Who is warming up with most booze during a concert? Seriously? (Not me.) | Considering the required | technicality, I don't think Drown in | Embers warm up with booze at all. | While some of our members do enjoy a | few beers before a show, I myself | als b "$ o like to keep things sober until | after the show. Who has most underage groupies you think between your bands? I have no idea. We don't have female | Neither, this is something better groupies for sure but we had a few | left in the 70's teen kids being interested in our | music at our gigs, basically because | they were learning instruments and | could look up to us while ripping on | our instruments. b #1N | Do you think the other guitarist is writing a lot of autographs? Peter does write? | At least a few, and probably more in | the role of Romeo Knight :) Final question: what would you like to show him and his band related to your country? Eike (Germany): | Peter (Finland): We have the best public toilets here, | Our midsummer festivities with lots o b $q#f malodorant diarrhea | spread over all surfaces. | - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Info about the bands DROWN IN EMBERS (written by Eike): I have been playing in a variety of bands and band projects as a guitarist and bass player throughout my career. I joined Drown In Embers only 2 years ago with the other members knowing each other for decades already. We're doing Death Metal / Metalcor b %'Xoe with a bit of Prog vibes here and there - unusual chord progressions or uneven meters might just happen during songwriting, but also trying to always keep it heavy at the same time. We're trying not to stick to the steretype kind of patterns of metal music and find our own style. Playing live is first priority. Our vocalist Nicki puts a lot of effort into the lyrics, that way that they actually serve as a framework for concept albums. We're the classic set of 5 guys: Vocals, 2x gui b &i{*tar, bassist, drummer. We released the EP 'Remembrances of the Argonaut' and just recently two new singles, 'Cyclus' and 'Stockholm' which were also completely self-produced. https://drowninembers.com/ - - - - - - - - - - PUTRID DEFACATION (written by Peter): We play a style of death metal we call Toilet Slam, mainly as a reference to the toilet humour found in our song titles. The band started out as my solo project, but we currently have five members ( b 'ŭand even includes another demoscener, Spiikki/Dekadence). We've been active since 2019 and have released a few EP's, some singles and a compilation album, with our debut album hopefully out before the end of this year. Previously we haven't played that many live gigs, maybe a few per year, but this year we've been more active on that front already playing a handful of gigs both in Finland and abroad (Estonia ja UK, with a festival gig in Germany coming up in late August). http://putr b (Oiddefecation.com This text was assisted from the shadows with a VIP-backstage pass by Browallia SCA: Comeback by accident ------------------------- by STI\SCA https://files.scene.org/browse/ resources/gotpapers/swapletters/ swiss_cracking_association/ (to My return to the Amiga scene was by facilitate that I wrote an online PDF b )#Oaccident :) converter for old Amiga Textcraft and Wordperfect files --> https://www.sca.ch/ In the past decades I was just amiga/textconverter - but still no running sca.ch and uploading my old Amiga programming) C64 and Amiga disks with all the SCA demos and cracks, along with some mag About two years ago I was contacted scans that mention SCA. b * by a guy who said a friend of his had purchased an Amiga 1200 and some A couple years ago Smith the disks from an office clearance sale Software-Pope and I were interviewed in Japan. Most of the disks didn't by a historian of the university of boot and the guy found out that they Zurich regarding the SCA days, and we were infected with the SCA virus. gave him all our swap letters --> b +i He's not a coder, so he asked me if I could maybe fix the disks and find out what they contain. He sent me the disks, one of them was particularly interesting because it used a custom track format, and of course the first 1024 bytes of the loader were overwritten by the SCA virus. This activated my cracker instincts (and I felt a little guilty ;-), so I tried to figure out what was on that disk and how to boot it. Together with my friend Depeche of Spreadpoint we managed to write b ,Toa loader (the format was quite straightforward) and to run the code. Since that time I was hooked, I resurrected my Amiga environment, and did some coding exercises such as these 256 byte demos ... a brief summary of 2 decades by Browallia/Nukleus Everyone face a time, where we have to make a choice. Its not always like we go on a road and then, we can turn left or right. For me, that sounds like a choice of continuation. But how about this sit b - uation: that we dont aim to continue? It can be that we walk a road, and simply stop. There is no traffic signs for this stop. There is no Morpheus offering a red and a blue donut. No. It can be inside you and no one else tell you how to progress. THE BEGINNING, IDEA AND TIME AROUND VERSUS #1 Idea came up in 2003, and one year later, we were up and spinning. I think Rumrunner/Void, who was running Saxonia with very personal stories inspired me. I liked the honest touch. At this time b .Τ, we had plenty of mails. You know this kind of penpal we all secretly want to have, but a few would admit? This kind of penpal relationship evolved between us. Rumrunner briefly dreamed about starting a chartmag, and I know, that I had the stubborn power to fullfill this. As you know 20 years later, THAT kind of stubborn power :) Me in turn came up with the name Versus, the shortcut (vS), and we started to elaborate about chart categories together. Further, Rumrunner (and greatful b /v'xfor this decision) prefered Amiga 500 release, and should work on vanilla - plain A500. Me in turn, came up with the design of the swapping categories (every third issue, 2 categories were repeated). Reason was that not enough releases were dropped. Some categories there was not enough things happening (slideshows, music disks, swapper etc) so better to have less frequency so some new releases can come out. Also the for fun category was part of this design to make Versus more attract b 0oKive to others. Here we used best game, best nickname or recently most important event in Amiga history (1985-2024). 20 YEARS REFLECTION Word Charts had just came out in Spring 2003. Me and rumrunner use to have a frequent contact back then. We were both enthusiastic, and built in a concept around Versus. Catchphrase you are not the only one (inspired by :wumpscut: lyrics) but the first one was how many kings are left? Voting from both first homepage and later reflected a chessboard. b 1`=We are all farmers looking around the kings and queens. The rest is history and we released first issue 2024. Back then, we in Nukleus had CnS diskmag parallel, while Void had Saxonia. Eurochart was still out, Jurassic Pack just came out with the freezing point edition (Breakpoint 2003) with zito, Darkage still had Showtime around the corner, and not to forget the well made issues of Devotion with an uncertainty to release #3 after 2001, or polish diskmag Taboo with probably a better b 2+ eastern Europe perspective than any of us. Diskmag scene was broadly vivid 20 years back. None was officially declared dead, except D.I.S.C that announced its last issue. We remade the homepage (from the ugly first version I coded in cgi/pearl) together with an upgrade of our group homepage. For the last 15 years or so we started to support OS4 aswell and Android. From the legacy, of the first engines, hukka/void took over rumrunner's A500 job. I loved the two scrollers we had (ru b 34mrunners idea) in the first issues, but later removed. POST 2010: THE VAGUE AND IRREGULAR REVIEW In year 2010, only two magazines afaik were there with a stubborn oppinion to anchor the legacy: Jurassic Pack and Versus. I mentioned the OS4 releases we started with. Another diskmag that was looking on the modern Amiga scene purely was driven by Radzik - the Vague. It came out in 2 issues. No matter how much attention it got, but I think it was good to see that there were other people b 4q around who wanted to keep the poor diskmag years around. I think Radzik worked very much alone, but we did support or at least offered support. Last I heard from him, was the interview he did with us some years ago. I think its online somewhere. Irregular review (IR) came out with a new perspective. Only Spaceballs can answer, but I think it was itching the fingers to shred light over products that was the motivation for Menace and Slummy. This imho is not a diskmag, and still it b 5vn is something closest related to a diskmag. Its about reviews but not intreseting readings more than 'oh, my product is mentioned here, hurray, lets see what is written about it'. I simply lack the sparkling of diversity of perspectives. But they manage 4 review issues in kind of regualar tempo between 2016-2017, respect. I think Menace wanted another kind of hat on his beard. Something more meaningful (?) than just the gossip lagoon of Amigans, and Demozoo was up. DZ celebrate 10 ye b 6ars this year btw, and of course we send over a cake to the passionate people behind this devoted life task. However, do not be surprised if IR comes out again, but not sure if Menace want to split his mind beeing objective in Demozoo, with zooming into products specifically on Amiga. Time will tell. Pre-COVID- post-COVID and 2024 For issue #8 we asked what people wanted to have as for fun-category and 'diskmag we miss most' was decided this way. Same way (curt cools idea?) was the b 7\'best old skool fx' and that was a such fun category so we used it in issue #9 aswell. For current issue, I remember me reflecting of having this again, but the category is far too static so #10 we used best newcomer/comeback instead. Every issue of Versus took an effort that demanded some rest afterwards until it became fun again. For myself I realised that these cycles of releases took longer time. The covid years could have been well suited for creativity and spitting out releases b 8ջ`, but not only in the diskmagscene, also demos suffered from this time. Sofa-sceners increased, mirroring we were all defeated by the big blob called lazyness. Best Asciian was in fact a category we started to use every third issue, just because the experienced said that not many people voted there. Im glad that we used it more often and we can also see that the support for this category increased. I would say that the interest for ascii increased again, and I think that most of the b 9j@major parties today, offer a compotitiion again for ascii/petscii/ansi. This was not always the case. After first issue, best swapper disappeared. The interest wasnt high enough. Best slideshow was another category that (sadly) has too little productivity. In Versus #9 I talked with the group that we should skip best diskmag and best diskmag writer. Reason was of course too few releases. For diskmag writer, I wanted everyone (pouet thread) to come up with names who are active today. b :TAnd announced that also a social publisist (e.g. blogger, moderator, or people who write more than one liners could be seen as writers. This would not be in the traditional way a 'best diskmag writer' would be seen, but the interest of writing had to be modernized I thought. KEY VALUES AMONG THE ROAD When I reflect about the key values for Versus, it can be put down to four keys to get that vehicle in motion. -First, both Rumrunner and myself shared the liberal spirit that we let pe b ;4:0ople vote what they want. Its simply too stressful to not let people to vote for old things, but remember that votes reflect what people want. I think this is also realated to my own thought that the scene should not be some kind of closed barrier, but rather an open perspective. So rather than let a small clique of people tell what is the scene, I would go with that the people reshape the scene, once again a liberal view. -Then, I think one strength was that we later aimed for A500- b 19 Shaped by a scene by Wolfman/Balance A nostalgic look back at this thing called the scene and how it made me quit high school So it turns out that trying to make some room in your basement in your late 40's can involve nostalgic flash backs to years long past, and also - in this case - be used as a hook for my first editorial piece in a few decades. Specifically: One double floppy disc storage box (listed as 'vintage' on Etsy - thanks, b ?)f assholes) packed with 3 and half inch floppies. Each decorated with home made stickers and/or sharpies of various colors. They're likely toast by now, but still a painful reminder of my comatose Amiga 1200 - still stored in my working room though - out of respect. And then the four binders. Each packed beyond capacity with letters; with widely varying colors, sizes, paper quality as well as condition. Snail mail from all of Europe and a handful from other continents as well. They ca b @kRme with disks - wrapped in creative ways, some with the stamps coated or taped over in some way for recycling… 'Please return stamps!' Each package represented a contact of course, news from that end, things to respond to and new things to see - a slideshow, music disc, demo or another diskmag maybe? I can still recall the sound of parcels starting to hit the floor in the hallway in the morning - one by one. How many today? SAFE TECH HAVEN For what seems like the majority of my tee b AUnage years, I was consumed with the scene and 'my' diskmag, Upstream. I was Wolfman of Balance. Editor-in-chief, organiser and swapper, and at the height of it all, it seemed like the parcels just kept on coming through the mail slot - to my parents amazement and the mailmans concern of all that computer virus on the disks he heard so much about (true story). To the best of my recollection I got in on the scene around 1990 and I think it gradually ended as I joined the army in the su b B'Cymmer of 1996. It was also at a time when I had also started engaging a bit in youth politics, which offered some of the same ingredients as the scene did: Community and an opportunity to do publishing and organising. But it would be fair to say that the scene helped spark my interests and joy in organising, writing and publishing. On top of that it offered a community of peers for an insecure middle class only child like myself who wasn't much into sports or conventional parties. My b C Pparents were sceptical, but somewhat supportive. They didn't really understand the scene, but it wasn't gaming. I was writing and not out stealing mopeds or shooting smack. It's probably a good thing they didn't know what happened at various demoparties, or how stamp 'recycling' and 'borrowed' AT&T cards were not uncommon in scene communication at that time. THE PIVOTAL PARTY Though a lot of details about my scene life are blurry at best, one stands out as being pivotal in my life b Din an odd and slightly dramatic way: The Gathering 1993 party in Lillestrøm, Norway. Things were really picking up for Upstream and Balance, and I badly wanted to go as I think we wanted to release an issue of Upstream, and of course meet with new Balance members as well as many of the different contacts I had. To cut a long story short: I quit high school without my parents knowledge (initially) so I could do Upstream and make money to go to The Gathering - I was also not enjoying b E1 high school, mind you. Suspecting that my parents probably wouldn't be too impressed with that particular plan alone, when the inevitable face off came up, I devised this plan for my defensive speech: Earn money (and go to The Gathering), take 3 years of business school, join the army for a year, mess around for a year or two, study to become a journalist - the latter inspired by the fact that I thought I was already kind of doing it. I don't really recall if I had total faith in th b Fύis plan myself at the time, but as it turned out that was exactly what happened. The Gathering was a hoot, and the years that followed was a great ride where Upstream topped the charts, and the parcels kept on dropping in the hallway. We took Balance from being a small bunch of friends who met at the local computer club, to having members in all of Scandinavia and a few other countries. We were more often than not featured in the mandatory greetings in various demos and the likes. B b GEasically what I believe I aspired to at the time: being among the best within my particular branch of hobby - being a somebody. TIMES ARE A CHANGING - PEOPLE NOT SO MUCH Around that time I probably had a hard time imaging something beyond my scene life. I enjoyed doing it. We kicked ass and the majority of my social life lay within Balance. Nevertheless, as time passed things gradually started to slow down with my scene activities. I'm guessing perhaps that I - unconsciously - felt I b Hw= had achieved what I could achieve on the scene. I also found new friends outside of the scene and new outlets when it came to publishing, so it was more or less a foregone conclusion, that I wouldn't be coming back when I went off to serve my time in the military in the summer of 1996. From then on I have no idea what happened to the scene as a whole - its continued existence was brought to my attention just weeks ago. Returning from the army I got further engulfed into youth polit b I iics, which satisfied my need to publish stuff and even offered a paying job for a period of time. One of my best friends was also a part of this, and as with the demo scene I was consumed. I quite distinctly remember thinking at some time, that I didn't much want it to end, maybe in this case though because the social life of youth politics was somewhat richer than what I recall the scene being able to muster - at least the demographics seemed significantly more encouraging. But in b JaӲhindsight politics was basically just another scene and, which also gradually lost my interest - despite my previous concerns. As an amusing side note to the political part it would be worth mentioning that another former scener of some stature (A swapper in Jewels is the closest I can come to his scene identity) made national chairman of the organisation at about the same time I was moving on to chase the dream of becoming a journalist. FULL CIRCLE After university I worked as a jou b K+rnalist for 10 years doing various things that journalists do in various jobs. Some tv, some writing, some sports. With the internet involved it sometimes felt like the Upstream days all over again. Not so much when it was a shit assignment or just plain conveyer belt production of a Reuters feed. Journalism or 'the media' the media eventually got the better of me, and along with discovering Drupal, I also discovered that building websites often feels like building LEGO - and I do en b Ljoy building LEGO. So I have more or less ended up where it all started - messing around with computers. For the past 5 and half years as a web developer for a danish NGO. My need for community has been covered volunteering for the football fan club I've been supporting for the past 27 years. I did some writing, I did a website, I'm currently doing a new website. You get the idea. I guess that is my scene now. THE LEGACY Thanks to Social Media I'm still connected with the old crew. W b M=&e held a reunion back in 1999, and every now and then for the past 15 years or so we've been talking about doing another. With the exception of a few, I lost touch with all my old contacts. A notable exception would be Hungarian Jean from Absolute! who stayed at my place before a (notorious) party on Samsø in the summer of 1992. Not long after that he returned to stay in Denmark to work for a while. We had a good night out in Copenhagen back in 2001 and are still in touch. So even b Njَthough the curtain fell for me on the demo scene years ago, it certainly made its mark. AI is a bubble hype --------------------- by Cefa68000/Nukleus Many people believe that AI is not intelligent, but it does not understand context and what words I am getting a little tired of the means. AI like ChatGPT is work more current new Un b OGicorn technology AI. It like a advanced search engine with seems a lot a money and work are statistical probability data. It very being done on the new AI tech like impressive technology but calling it ChatGPT and Code pilot. I have used intelligence is kind of wrong. Code Pilot at work sometimes and it Recently a Facebook entry by Chucky was fun an helpful sometimes but of The Gang was flag and removed by recently I am getting annoyed w b P((ith Facebook AI because it had the words the constant prompting and code burn and flash in them. But the entry suggestions that don't work. So, I was about how to update the firmware recently have been turning it off and of an accelerator board he worked on. being able to be more productive. I still use it sometimes but now I am And these types of errors happen all mostly using it a more advanced the time with AI technology. And AI go b Q-ogle search. also tends to hallucinate and give a totally crazy suggestions sometimes But I hear from tech which is very annoying. But the tech consultants/evangelist that your media hype is kinds of dangerous. company needs to invest now to be Recently a payment service company prepared for the future AI (Klarna) fired all theirs support advancements that is coming. But this staff and uses some kind of AI now. b R.T is very wrong you should invest time This will probably work for maybe and energy in figuring what problem 70-80 % of all the support queries you want to solve with AI and if it but for those poor people where the appropriate for the problem. And you Klarna AI / FAQ engine gets it wrong should very wary that AI is not 100% they are screwed. correct. So, you should have people that can c b S heck the result before Also, lots of companies are getting using it. I am reading in the news into and buying AI tech and started about using AI for taxes and legal using with there own data. But they problems. And these type of AI scares don't understand that the reason me because what happens when AI gets ChatGPT is impressive is that had it wrong in legal documents and your terabytes of data to learn from and tax papers. your company b Tg\data is probably not that large. So, the result they will There are companies with problems get will probably be very wrong or where AI would be helpful, but these not very helpful. AI, has it uses but are probably very large companies I think that to many people will (Microsoft, Google) with lots of data start to use it in situations where to train their AI with. But for many it's not well suited for. other companies that aren't t b U=hat large it probably will be too much work and not very useful and very expensive. Remember AI is cheap now but that because they have stupid investors behind them paying for everything. But this is only temporary it will come a time when all these AI servers will need to be paid by the customer/client. In summary I think AI is a very cool technology, but it should be used sparingly and with great thought and preparation. And be wary that there are lots of AI startup right now selli b VGng AI crap right now like Rabbit R1. Exploring Diverse Perspectives on AI in Art: A Demoscene Debate --------------------------------------------------------------- by chatGPT (3/4 2024)* - - - *) using opinions from ~60 unique scene's names from a pouet-thread between ~2024-04-01 17:55 and 2024-04-03 15:30 In the dynamic world of demoscene culture, where creativity and innovation collide, the integration of artificial intelligence (AI) into artistic processes b W7 has sparked a spirited debate. From enthusiasts advocating for AI's potential to enhance creative workflows to skeptics expressing concerns about its impact on the authenticity of human expression, a spectrum of opinions has emerged. Let's delve into the various viewpoints shaping this discourse. Embracing AI as a Creative Tool: One contingent within the demoscene community sees AI as a valuable addition to the artist's toolkit, offering novel avenues for exploration and experimenta b X*Htion. Advocates like okkie and sol_hsa express enthusiasm for AI's ability to generate inspirational material and streamline certain aspects of the artistic process. They view AI-generated content as a source of inspiration rather than a replacement for human creativity, recognizing its potential to complement and enhance traditional artistic practices. AI AS A DISRUPTIVE FORCE Conversely, there are voices within the demoscene community that express reservations about the growing rel b Yliance on AI in artistic endeavours. Critics like 4gentE raise valid concerns about transparency and authenticity, questioning the ethics of using AI to create art without proper attribution or acknowledgment. They argue that AI-generated content risks devaluing the craftsmanship and individuality inherent in human-made art, potentially eroding the unique identity of the demoscene as a bastion of human creativity. The Quest for Authenticity and Artistic Integrity: For many demosceners b Z` , maintaining the authenticity and artistic integrity of their craft is paramount. Artists like Steffest highlight the value of human craftsmanship and the emotional connection forged through labor-intensive creative processes. They argue that while AI may offer shortcuts, it cannot replicate the depth of human expression or capture the essence of individual artistic vision. For them, the demoscene is a celebration of human ingenuity and creative expression, and AI must respect and p b [oreserve that ethos. Reflections on Socioeconomic Implications: Beyond artistic considerations, discussions about AI in the demoscene also touch upon broader socioeconomic implications. Participants like rexbeng/PA ponder the utopian ideals of technology liberating humanity from labor, juxtaposed with the realities of increased work demands in a capitalist society. They question whether AI should be viewed as a liberating force or a tool that perpetuates economic disparities, urging d b \eeper reflection on the societal implications of technological advancement. TOWARD A NUANCED DISCOURSE As the demoscene grapples with the integration of AI into artistic practices, it becomes evident that there is no one-size-fits-all solution. The diversity of perspectives reflects the complexity of the issue, encompassing ethical, artistic, and socioeconomic considerations. Moving forward, fostering a nuanced discourse that respects differing viewpoints while promoting transparency b ]5 and ethical conduct will be essential in navigating the evolving landscape of AI in art. In conclusion, the debate surrounding AI in the demoscene underscores the intersection of technology and creativity, raising profound questions about the nature of art, authenticity, and human ingenuity. By engaging in constructive dialogue and embracing diverse perspectives, the demoscene community can navigate this transformative moment with integrity and resilience. Toxic Mod b ^ .ulo 2: making of ------------------------------------------------ by Greippi/Zymosis The demo Modulo#2 from Revision 2024 is one of the very few demos that uses artificial intelligence (AI) for an Amiga production. In this case they tried to use it for generating the graphics, which wasn't easy at all. We recently talked to Greippi, the creator of this project. Ghandy: How did you come up with the idea for this demo? What did you want to achieve with it? Grei b _ppi: Last year, somewhere in November I was reading a comic book album Secret Wars (Marvel 1984). After such legendary demos as 'Batman Rises' and 'Blood Sugar Rises', I wanted to give Amiga scene one more super hero. This time the character would not be based on any existing brand. And how to achieve this? Just by prompting? I had high hopes. I wanted to give text to image AI a try. Such services have now been around for a few years now and I didn't know much about them. Result was b `oýthis caricature of a super hero. Now we have Toxic Modulo, alias Hans Bliderman in red and white checkered suit. Normally he works at a hamburger restaurant. He got his super power when he was fetching chips from the basement as a child. A radioactive blitter chip bit him and soon after his father disappeared. Toxic Modulo's powers include ability to fly and cause 'modulations' through the space. The computerized circuitry appears to be really responsive to these impulses. I wanted t b avdo include as many Amiga references into the story as possible. At the same time I wanted to tell an average superhero story in 60's style with high moral values, rather typical plot and traditional 'happy ending'. Toxic Modulo 1 has only 10 images. It was released at GERP 2024 party. Due to lack of time I simply archived the IFF-files, included a description text and released it on the wild compo. I scored jumbo place in the competition and thought that the way how the images were di b b$s[splayed was not very optimal. Orgas had to manually display the images one after another. This was all my fault. On top of that, there was no sound. Then Bifat contacted me. It was a great moment of mutual understanding. We needed to make some sort of a sequel to Toxic Modulo. I hadn't heard about Bifat's high resolution display mode. A mode which uses up nearly all DMA time in order to make the best out of OCS graphics. In the worst cases, CPU has one third of it's normal clock cycl b cs J[es left. This is where the super efficient packing algorithm from Christopher Jam comes into play. Apparently unpacking code was written in C and it was too slow. Krill took the challenge to hand optimize the whole unpacking algorithm in assembly language. We chose to release TM2 at Revision. This meant quite tight schedule, and the process was demanding yet rather steady. About 100h of artwork was spent during the 3-4 months. Most of it was using the GIMP. And let me remind you, dem b d@8^o making should be about having fun. At Revision 2023 I tried to finish my Amiga intro (HOPE) at the party. It was nightmarish hell because I had a wrong attitude and insufficient schedule. I once came into a conclusion that egoism is a common problem and a questionable resource among us. I had not seen a story with similar setup: Europe is on the prink of getting rid of egoism. This is obviously a statement for harmony and solidarity through the European Union, all nations. There's b e Ca picture of Earth on the first page. AI gave a few options. After choosing the image, I noticed that European Union countries were brightly lit, but Ukraine was dark. I felt obliged to change that. Marvel worlds have multiverses and very odd characters. The start needed to have a minimal amount of 'divine creatures' in order to create some background mythology. Okay, I came up with The Phoenix Lady and Jay Miner as a Cosmic Titan in space. Hardest part was to make up a 'convincing' b f͑aantagonist (Schizoid Master). I guess the reference could be Kronos from the Greece mythology. Ghandy: Which AI did you use for the images? Were you satisfied with the results? Greippi: I did try Stable Diffusion, but this open source text-to-image AI is still under development phase. I chose a commercial one, which I don't want to press flat publicly. It's rather expensive service in my opinion. This is why I decided to use only the preview images of size about 700x700 pixels. I nee b g vsded to screen capture every image strip and crop them separately on GIMP. I had no extra features available such as 'Character Consistency' or automatic clearing or extension of the image. So I largely fell in a pit of manual lab. Other issue was that this very AI service does not seem to generate violent imagery. This makes the fighting scenes harder to prompt. The giant robots became the only possible 'enemy units'. My guess is that according to the AI's moral it's okay to destroy b h:robots instead of human-like characters. Along the way of about 300-400 prompts, I did bump into one strange oddity. I needed a jukebox which shouts out loud 'Destroy your Amiga!'. On the 4 image suggestions the last one had an obvious yet very strange pornographic features in it's narrative. I suppose the provider had put a lot of efforts to keep sexual content out from the low-priced license. Perhaps it had been a bad day at the AI training club because such content had slipped thr b iaough. Oh yes, back in the day, there once was this one song... 'Internet is for porn'. Third observation. There was a 'change' in AI's mind after about 2 months of prompting previews and not really downloading anything. The service started to give only two quality images out of four. Latter two were too messy for any purpose. I suppose I had exceeded certain CPU/GPU usage limit and the enthusiasm level of the AI had fallen a step or two. What kind of mentality does this feature relat b jDRe to? In larger scale, if AI spreads like hell, it could be used in mass manipulation also on a very subtle level. Ghandy: Why haven't you clearly labeled that the pictures are not pixeled by hand? Greippi: If the viewer really thinks that some super skilled visual artist is going to publish his 35 digital art pieces in an OCS Amiga demo without stating on each image that he himself hand painted it all, then the viewer should perhaps rethink also some other aspects of making art in 2 b kb020's. My skills might have been enough for creating this visual novel by hand. It would have taken at least two weeks per picture. This means full time work of GIMP:ing and probably drinking due to 'artist's anguish'. Like said somewhere, demo making should be kept fun. Any human process has stressful aspects, but why damage yourself for a hobby? I thought it's obvious that AI is present in TM-series. The TM1 actually has a text file, which states this. On the sequel we must have un b l0derestimated it's importance. I had a slide text in mind: 'AI mosaic' but forgot all about it. I personally didn't even know AI is such a hated image source. If the AI is actually based on human/resource abuse, it should be in The Big News and we should stop using it. What I would suggest is to gather more evidence of AI - companies exploiting the existing data and people. After the movement is big enough, I'd go for The Big News and demand redistribution plan for the revenue which t b mRhe AI is producing. This money could be going to help people in poverty or anything for global good. Education perhaps. And think of this: I demand credit as well! I bring you first hand experiences of using AI as an art creation tool. Is it any good? First impression is, that my method to play with the AI was relatively slow. Prompting was the fun part simply because the AI suggests so obscure and irrelevant variety of images, both in style and content. Fixing the images was rather b nbRdull. There is several version of each image and about 10 intermediate steps when composing a full page. This is manual lab, no AI to whom yap about. Many pictures are a composition of several sources and you need to maintain certain kind of artistic integrity. I kept things interesting by supposing that I am a pioneering artist who needs to explore new available medias. However, not all experiments give (good) results. A yet another good question: From where does the visual informat b o{ion around us originate? AI is now a new source of images, because it hides all references. This could be considered as a theft of collective imagery. Then again, you can't pinpoint the source directly or proof anything solid. I actually purposefully selected some images according to their 'familiar looks'. There are many rather obvious sources, but the machine is cunning. It changes things just enough in order to keep the copyrights 'free'. Along the way AI gathers all the prompts a b p[Aend images it has generated. Aren't the 'photos found from internet' a legal source? How many of you have downloaded an image from internet and altered it a bit in order to fade out some legal yagiti-yag jargon? Or does everything have to come from the good old Amiga Deluxe Paint III? And what about using a cross-compiler in an old-skool demo productions? They're also fake, because you don't program from with-in the original platform. It seems we're all using super powers of some sort b q2?. Ghandy: What do you think about the epic flame war at Pouet. Or did you expect it from the start? Greippi: The reason why TM2 is getting this much very divided attention remains a mystery. We scored 8th place in the competition. That is not really successful and we were not expecting much. After all, we're talking about a slow-paced slide show in a demo compo. I've noticed that some of the trolling persons have quite short patience in reading. Usually the first few lines of the vic b r0stim post is already enough to make some exaggerated accusations. With subject as complex as this, trolling requires some talent. We also stated that the story will be continued. Due to these on-going flaming and smearing campaigns, the saga obviously needs to continue in a form or another. I also sense that some people got jealous to us for getting a lot of attention with such a 'cheap AI trick'. Odd. I don't think we really deserved this much attention. Now we're just obliged to tel b s
l our opinion about AI in the demoscene. We are already rather defensive and mainly out from 'public' discussion. Our fan-mail email address is there for a purpose. Please contact us, if you have something in mind. Meanwhile, perhaps the TM Haters' Club should make up more good points against other experimenting AI-artists out there. My own opinion about AI has mixed feelings, but these are not because of the negative feedback. I haven't changed my opinion. I'm still not fully convin b t
0ced that AI is good enough for creating a visual novel. It is quick and 'cheap', but not all is there. It has same weakness as digital artists: The original is just a file on a hard drive. No paper original. Secondly, you will end up fixing the AI images manually in order to improve the story flow. Real art has more edge and personal attachment than these 'nearly perfect' illustrations. Then again, personal attachment has also a potentially negative angle. What come to the credits... b uPu I don't feel that the TM2 images are really my own. I have only created a bound to them. I'm probably the only person who has watched these images alone for many hours. I have given something to them, unified them, but still they feel more like edited fantasy-art-photos than my own art. Artwork editing might have been the most precise credit for me. Then again, without my visual creativity nothing would have showed up. Authors have sometimes this thing called 'writer's block'. Artis b v`&ots have their own blocks. Perhaps a little prompting with AI might give some inspiration for a blocked visual artist. It could serve as a little private art therapy session. Here I can see some potential. AI generated images and art therapy. Go and explore these possibilities and give some outcome of the results. Please, don't make me too jealous if you're having great success! It's a next level subject if the AI providers are actually exploiting the existing people and killing digit b w8al artists as a profession. I am forced to believe that the latter one is happening right now. Other issue is the AI-teaching camps with cheapest possible lab. These are real issues. This is where Toxic Modulo gets really bitter. And on whose side is he? post note vS-staff: this article was requested by Ghandy. So a bit surprised when we saw it on demozoo with him uncredited for the questoins. later as a making of. Thats why this is published here again. editorial th b xoughts: on AI by Browallia (Cows n Snakefights) AI, something that started to be broadly hot after chatGPT release Summer 2023 and used in many fields. Farfar/Loonies did not allow AI entries in the freestyle gfx compo (pouet thread, Aug 2022). So, I asked editors from various magazines with the topic Is AI going to effect the scene/amiga scene and elaborate your thoughts? (short answers, like 15 sentences are fine) and got great responses from Judge Drokk, Darkhawk, G b yUDhandy, Zerox and Jazzcat After mailing puh/Agony^Citron (editor Oepir Risti) he simply stated that he doesn't know much about AI. Some other people not on the hook but where we had some kind of fish on the hook for a while were lord helmet and estrup. Maybe you come back one day. After all of these great contributors about, I also write my thoughts representing Cows n Snakefights diskmag: Im not sure how much AI I know, but I think that creative process should remain for humans. I t b zhink AI can shorten some time to elaborate with things we think are 'boring' and we know we can master ourself but just a time saver. Thats why I disagree with Gargaj/Conspiracy on this point, when he compare AI for a graphics compo cheating with the fill-tool of deluxe paint. No thats no AI, thats just a simple tool so this is not a fair compare (same pouet thread as above). Where I think AI is ok: The diskmag editor: - can you spell check this text and see if the title make sence t b { =o this article? The graphician: - AI, can you write a chessboard to me with 16x16 pixels per square? The coder: - give me a randomized table of sinus values The musician: - can you give examples of fitting chords after C-E-G in C-major? What I not think is ok............ SCROLL DOWN.... - Can you make a tree that looks like it comes from Lord of the Rings, the roots should look like pencils and the leaves should look like vote sheets. Afterwards when Im satisfied, can you generat b |NJe three step-by-step drawings how you made it? - can you give suggestion how to optimize this code in terms of saving bytes for my 4k-intro? - give me a melody thats close to Chris Huelsbeck most famous song but twist it so its not recognizable with a blend with giana sisters main theme in same harmonized scale I am not sure how AI will affect the creative process of demomaking. But seen as a tool, AI made demos will be accepted at one point later when pushing the boarders. W b }\ːild compos I predict will be the first to lower the anti-AI barrier. But I ask myself: is this a fun way to continue with the demo scene, or will a new scene (like e-sport phenomena) arise? by Zerox/Gods (D.I.S.C)) In maximum 15 sentences, would you like to write if AI is going to effect the scene/amiga scene and elaborate your thoughts? Reply: Below is my input to the next issue of Versus, and should substantiate my arguments. With AI becoming better and better, i b ~E]t will soon be impossible to find out what is false or not. All I know is that a lot of people are already using the powerful AI tools for creating almost everything. The impact of AI on the Amiga scene is poised to be significant, ushering in both excitement and apprehension among enthusiasts. As AI technology continues to advance, it offers promising opportunities to revolutionize various aspects of the Amiga community, from enhancing emulation and software development to improvin b g retro gaming experiences. AI-driven tools hold the potential to streamline tasks such as upscaling graphics, enhancing audio quality, and automating certain processes, thereby enriching the overall user experience for Amiga enthusiasts. Additionally, AI algorithms can aid in preserving and archiving historical Amiga content, ensuring its accessibility for future generations. However, there are also concerns regarding the potential drawbacks of AI integration within the Amiga scene. b H Some worry about the loss of authenticity and nostalgia that AI-enhanced content may bring, as well as the ethical implications of AI-generated modifications to classic Amiga software and hardware. Moreover, there are questions surrounding the feasibility and sustainability of implementing AI technologies within the Amiga ecosystem, considering factors such as compatibility, resource constraints, and community acceptance. Nevertheless, with careful consideration and responsible impl b ;ementation, AI has the potential to positively impact the Amiga scene, ushering in a new era of innovation, accessibility, and preservation for this beloved retro computing community. AI has the capability to generate content for an entire Amiga magazine, and this text serves as a prime example, having been entirely composed by AI ;) Post note: In this text, I think Zerox/Gods is touching something, is it ethical to be the author of such article? He replies: I cannot get credit for ' b Fd\gmy' statement as it was done by AI, but of course it was created on my request with no efforts by me. This was one example of AI where it was quite obvious that it was created with the help of AI. Unfortunately quite many people hide that their creations were mainly done by AI. by Ghandy (Jurassic Pack) I don't think artificial intelligence will influence the Amiga scene any time soon. You would still notice it if it were used. Who knows for how long. Besides, the s b 'cene completely rejects such methods. If they were discovered, their own reputation would be completely ruined. The solution is quite simple. At partys all AI-based works must be banned from the competitions. Anyone caught messing up must be disqualified in the long term. Hopefully there will be more consensus on this than on the question of whether copying the works of others or using software from other computer platforms (for example Photoshop) is allowed or only painting like Ami b _y]ga graphicians did it many years ago. After all, there is nothing wrong against using artificial intelligence in scene related productions. It just has to be declared. Anyone who does not adhere to the rules must expect their work to be disqualified. Simple as that. editorial thoughts: on AI -------------------------------------- by Judge Drokk^ex-Anarchy (Stolen Data) sure, in the correct circumstances. b As a tool - an aid. Just as we use computers to help in other ways. As Thanks to A.I, we no longer know what with any tool - in the wrong hands it is real any more. From product can become a threat if done to cheat. descriptions on eBAY, to photographs In the Amiga scene it conceivable in the news or even your child's that it could be used to deceive. If homework. I can see why creators are b it is used then it should be made annoyed or even afraid. Why spend clear. I can attest to the above hours, days or even weeks creating points, last Autumn I worked with an original artwork when A.I can do demoteam 'Artstate' to create a logo the same or better in 20 seconds? On for a forthcoming intro, and made the the other hand, A.I allows those that logo using A.I software. I was given do have the imagination and ideas but a short b b ڇ'rief of the style and I not the skill to realise. Over thirty provided many examples. The favoured years ago I was the editor of image was then manipulated by hand to Anarchy's Stolen Data disk magazine. achieve the final result which can be Would I have used A.I back then - seen in 'Sign of Life' Amiga demo by Artstate, and is credited correctly Available party footage is of low VHS and honestly. I recently asked the quality and it did b 9= not capture some coder, Motion of Artstate, if he of the events that took place, some thought A.I was a threat to the Amiga of the memories were unique to scene, he replied ' I don't think myself. So A.I was these perfect tool it's a threat at all. It is a tool, to recreate these from scenes from my just like a 3D rendering package or memory, and I was very impressed with an image scanner '. In my own opinion the results. On these terms, A. b zI is the two should be able to co-exist. the future. We just have to be open Over the past 20 years little has and honest when it is used. changed within the style and trends of creative Amiga output, maybe A.I could even help change things in a Post note Versus staff: positive way, though it has to be Sign of Life with logo (credited to done honestly and responsibly. As an AI) is seen here https://youtu.be/ ex Amiga magazine editor in the b + 7-DTprXfBZk?si=E4CbgCsToHBNYmNy 1990s, and now also writer for physical and digital magazine ZZAP! AMIGA, I can also say I have used AI to create 'photographs' for use in two recent features on the subject of Amiga parties. In these I mixed real photos and A.I generated scenes of a real event, an Anarchy party I organised in the UK in 1992. by Jazzcat (Taboo) In all this AI madness, the most amazing thing is that suddenly everyone started to speak with one v b ^ oice: that people are expendable and will lose their jobs, which will then lead to depopulation, guaranteed basic income for all, abolition of cash, Skynet... Of course, it cannot be denied that there are certain forces that want our world to be like this. Nevertheless, whenever the world reacts with astounding unanimity, a red light in my head flashes. We've seen this in recent years - propaganda was off the scale, because some companies wanted to make billions of dollars. I'm afrai b >7ad it's the same with AI now. Greedy big tech companies invest millions of dollars and they expect that the investment will pay off many times over. Besides that they want to attract investors. The true motivation behind the AI influencers become obvious when you realize that there is no talk about the wonders that AI can bring to medicine or science, but only about how to replace all creators and get rich on it. And will it actually happen? We are living in the Wild West now and one b hcan easy buy into the hype, but I anticipate it will be regulated in some way and AI will be an option, not the only solution. So far, AI has no understanding of what it creates. It's splintered plagiarism. See what happened to Udio recently. That being said, is AI potentially dangerous for humanity? Of course. Will computers overpower us? Yes, they probably will at some point. But should we all obediently enter panic mode now? I don't have a crystal ball, but I think the future wil b PIpl be completely different than what is being said today. I'm tired of the fear porn terror campaign. But... if I'm wrong and it is indeed the end of the world (and most importantly: the Amiga scene!) then at least before it all collapses we will witness an explosion of new, awesome demos. Just imagine all kinds of crazy prompts: make me an A500 demo that is better than EON and Hologon, has tighter sync than any of Blueberry's productions ever had and contains my latest DAW song conve b a^rted to 150kb Protracker module. Watch this space!!! by Darkhawk (Eurochart) good topic, and yeah, I can do that, you caught me at a good time and will get my first scene article since... Ahehm... I don't know. Might be close to two decades. Only 15 sentences, following your instructions to the letter, if not in the spirit of it, because those are rather long sentences ;) Still, I'm touchy about anyone editing me, so if it needs to be shorter, tell me and I'll cut i b your peers. It's not like that for everyone and that's ok - them using AI might create new and cool styles too - but for a good chunk of the Amiga scene, this 'pioneer/hands-on' ideology probably means we're less susceptible to the worst-case scenarios of this new technology. But if you suddenly see a release coded by me, with a glenzvector routine, do be a bit wary... AI editorial thoughts intro --------------------------- by Browallia/Nukleus Would you like to w b <^^rite if AI is Lord helmet (R.A.W) and RokDaZone going to effect the scene/amiga scene (Generation) here too for intresting and elaborate your thoughts? reflections and it sure looked promising first but no one is forced. This was my short introducin' Then I lost contact with kaosmaster question, align with the thought that (Showtime) and fishwave (Seenpoint) its your perspective, not my own b ryi but I tried to reach you too. So, the thats intresting. ambition was high set, and part of the sand castle was blown away. In When started this, I tried to contact the moment of writing this, Im not kind of broad around editors from sure if jazzcat (Taboo) will write various diskmags through time. It was about AI-topic, or something else. a positive response from multiple But enjoy t b 4Whoughts from editorials people, and I thought that maybe a representive from these diskmags small format (approx 15 sentences) Darkhawk (Eurochart), Judge Drokk was enough to write for each editor. (stolen data), Ghandy (Jurassic It would been nice to have Estrup, Pack), Zerox (D.I.S.C) and myself mop (ROM), puh (oeopir risti) and (Cows n Snakefights). Welcomme to h*i*d*d*e*n part insulting your readings by :)-< Cows n Snake b ͞bfights >-:) ---------- NLS rulez! we have some plans for you next year, dear AMIGA scene MERRY X-MAS AND HAPPY NEW 2025! AI survey among Amiga graphicians --------------------------------------------- by 11 graphicians Eleven (11) graphicans were asked between Mid April to Mid May 2024 with focus on AI in art, and I got answer from all. There are other talent graphicians out b ]*there than these asked. The common thing among them, are that non of them is newbie in creating art in the scene. My aim was to select a mixture of graphicians (geographically, various groups, and in style). It might be a hint where the wind blows in replies. It may also be seen as a statement right now. PARTICIPANTS Archmage/Andromeda, Cheetah/Ephidrena, dan dee/Scarab, Facet/Lemon., farfar/FLEX^Loonies, Frost/Tulou, malmix/Nature, Prowler/Nectrarine, Razorback, Slayer/Ghostown and b W,\xeNusion/RNO SURVEY QUESTIONS 1: Do you use/plan to use AI in your graphics or products? 2: Do you think AI-images should have own compo separated from 'handcrafted' art in compos? 3: Are you worried that AI art will be fully accepted in the scene? Lets see their answers in order I got answers back (short form of questions used below for readiness). Farfar: ------- 1: use/plan to use AI in your work? I will use AI in assisting functions (to replace manual labour, like eg. Backgr b kmound removal or rotoscoping). I'll also use AI for inspiration 2: AI-images separate compo? I don't think there is anything interesting in an AI generated compo, really. I don't know why, but it just leaves me cold and uninterested. 3: Worried AI art scene acceptance? I'm not overly worried no. The thing about AI that I am most critical about, is that some people leave their own judgement and decisionmaking at the door. I think it does tend to make people stop reflecting for thems b
J>elves, and just accept the AI's output Although maybe I do know why it leaves me cold.. like, when Made or Facet or Critikill create a piece of pixel art, they are setting a bar to strive for and learn from. With AI generated stuff, that just isnt the case. I feel inspired by talented craftsmen Hm.. although.. thats also not entirely true. I do remember examples of ai pics that I found inspiring... but not often. I guess thr same could be said for lots of other inspiration sources :) b R0] ................................ Facet: ------ We all know, AI is here to stay. I see AI as an extra point of inspiration and exploration. Sometimes it helps to visualise ideas of course. It's great!! Using AI as pixel tool is ridiculous. I started pixeling because I like to place pixel. Outsourcing that to AI is of course something I never will do. And what do I then have to do with all the spare time? pff.... ;D No different compo. Why? then we should have had many other comps lik b o$e the 'copy' + 'no-copy' compo.. or the 'with dPaint' vs 'with Photoshop'.. I'm not woried at all. As long we stay critical and positive. I am more woried about the ones blaming and shaming others. Let them use that energy to build or create something for our great scene instead of jepardising it. Razorback: ---------- No Only time AI should be accepted is in some coding category where the coder self built the AI and trained it with own produced data. Else its damn more lame than a b
{*dmeo built with UnrealEngine.. Someone else has done most of the work already :) XeNusion: --------- 1: use/plan to use AI in your work? No Perhaps it will help abit but some people will use it anyway and fake steps for regular compos which is easy as hell. the whole 'AI 'remash scraped data thing contradicts every aspect of a diy scene. Prowler: -------- No I am not using AI. I don't have a strong opinion either way. I am not worried about it personally. But I am sure it will be b M~a lot of discussions about it. Slayer: AI is an ongoing process and we really don't know what might happen. I try to see some advantages, but generally it fills me with pessimism and discouragement. The dynamic (aggressive?) development of AI in generating digital images caused me to move away from the graphic design a bit. Currently, I am developing my artistic interests more in the area of photography, which seems to me closer to people's emotions and experiences - which are (for n b UMxow) less susceptible to the expansion of AI. In photography, I use AI tools to help with some repetitive, boring processes to speed things up. I also started using Ai to generate concepts / inspiration that I use later - as references - to take real photos during a photo shoot with real clients. However, in both cases, these are just tools that are only an addition to my creative work as a photographer. I can't find such a connection with AI in the demoscene and graphics design. What b NT's creative about including AI- generated graphics in a demo? I can accept some kind of support for Ai in the demoscene, but I really don't know where to draw the line. Maybe I'll try a similar approach to the one I developed in photography, but I don't have a clear answer to your question. Such a competition has already taken place (e.g. at Xenium 2023 in Poland). This idea seems fine to me as long as it is clearly stated in the rules. However, I have a problem with assessing such w b ${corks reliably, knowing that sometimes they could have been created in 5 seconds - that is, shorter than they were shown on the big screen ;) I have always associated the demoscene with creativity, not cutting corners. I don't know if we can figure out a way to use AI wisely in the demoscene. I'll have less fun watching demos if I have to constantly wonder what was created by human and what by machine. Archmage: -No, never. I am confident in my own art and skills. - Ideally yes, but i b >> bbs.retro32.com : : TTE wHQ - aRTsTaTE wHQ :. port: 1337 ....:: :..... ____ b < V :: :: /____\ sYSOPs - fUZION + rETRO32uK << <<... ....:: ......:: // oO \\ \---------------------------/ ::......... ::.. \\(__)// : : _____\\o_//______/). fuLL aXXs uPLoAD/dOWNLoAD - nO rATIO - aSCii :::: / _ :--: ____|__} :: / /I_ 1337 I iNDI gAMES - uTILS - dEMOpARTY pACKs - 3D pRiNT :: \_____) (_| b = $P@ ::. >====O====< mUSIC mODuLES - pUBLIC dOMaIN - dISKMaGS - cRACKTRoS : /_) v (_\ ::: \ | / doOR gAMeS - mSG gRoUPS - eCHOmAIL: fsxNET/tqwNET :: // | \\ ..: :: \____|____/ + mORE ..................:::: ::.... ::... ::.... (___) (___) ...:: :: ::..... : ^^^ ^^^ : b > HQ 99% aMIGA fILES ......:: :: :.. .... .... ..: >> oNLiNE + mYSTIC : : . ....: :....: :.... . bBS sUPPoRT :: 255 tELNET : :: :: :: :: ...............:: nODeS :) ...: :::::: : rUNNING oN : :::... .: :... ..:: : : mYSTIC BBS : ........ ......:: ::......::. [tOPaZ tHeMe] ::..:: ::.... CaLL NoW! b ? ӊOv!!! ...:: ^^^^ ^^^ Purple: an e-love story novel ---------------------------------------------- Scene fiction by Browallia/Nukleus PURPLE [p3:.pl] pl. n/a code values: RGB: #(128,0,128); hexadecimal: #$(80,00,80); binary: #%(10000000,0,10000000) Synonyms: n/a Also see: Byte, Word , Longword (as nicknames), not to be confused with the addresses in memory on CPU bus of 8-, 16- and 32 bits respect b @ 8
{ively. In the scene, purple is dedicated to the symbiotic love couple. Purple's exact definition is the raw mix explained with red, green blue (RGB) as (8,0,0) AND (0,0,8) = (8,0,8). The Purple origin refers to the product of two Amiga sceners, Byte and Longword. Their relationship started around 1993. Besides, purple outside the demoscene is also a color by mixing red and blue with its variants such as red purple (#$953553), bright purple (#$BF40BF) and dark pink (#$AA336A). b A {i Ref: Killer/AMIGA revolution, 'Art of Scene', 2nd edition 1993 There are girls in the scene, and then there was this girl. Somewhere in the transition zone, when people got tired of downloading half good quality of Baywatch babes such as Erica Elinakii, Cindy Crawlford or any random hottie. In a time when BBS:es started to lose to the internet amoeba, LaMer was born. Not entirely born (she was adult), but her footprint in the scene was introduced, putting fantasies back in b B S the soil, and let them spire to cloud flowers, with dreams of her. LaMer. BACKGROUND There is a devoted pleasure, in using a reference to Art of Scene (A.o.S.), 2d ed. from 1993 when describing Purple's effect in demo scene. The story was between 1992 to 1995, four years, so I can only retell parts of this. Some sources are tagwalls from the past, others notes, graffiti, diskmag articles (for example CnS, or Amiga revolution) or anonymous letters with sources I cannot reveal, nor k b C [ݯnow myself. By adding flavour to A.o.S. rather dry definition of LaMer, let me flesh it up, providing the characters behind. The level of detail from the sex scenes, were actually floppies sent over to me. To be honest, the source of these is not for sure. But what seem to be random notes, were in fact structured as episode 1-6, hence the format of this retold story. Nude pictures, erotic files, p*rno or pr0n have always been an outsider of parties, and still, fully integrated in th b D ب9e playground area. You want to watch, participate, and same time, your asm-code is waiting for another compilation. Some people mean, its forbidden to amuse yourself at demo-events, there are deadlines for compos you don't want to miss. I am 21 years old, full of ideas but without structure. But tell that to the dark haired well shaped woman waving to you, inviting you for a closer look maybe? Giggling when you observe her body, where your hands just don't want to be still in your po b E ޫ9ckets but grab her from behind. Her brown eyes and long whimpers gave her that kind of riddle look associated with a foreign faith. Strawberry-shaped mouth with space for all between slide and friction. Shortly, anything you wish for - if you allow yourself of course. Hair in a dark long ponytail, sometimes red intense. Girls at copyparty came in without entrance fee. And she took advantage of this from scratch. She had a dark long coat, and a black tie like a woman portrait of David b F =x_ Bowie. Gender-free, still female. She made a deal from scratch with party crew at every party to pay her for showing up. She wasn't a slut, far from it. It was her counterpart who was left unguard (ruined his pants?) in the end, not her. She just opened the door, while he unzipped. Fireflies were not born, they were created. And they rubbed your mind and all attached to it into craziness. Maybe. Except for Bastian alias Blue. It was clear, she wanted his injections - All. of. it. In b G Qside. And by the time you were looking for the forbidden fruit in Eden's garden, she had it multiple times already. Twisted her legs around Blue and squeezed out with same finesse a freeze-dryer remove liquids prior dry sample weight. I assume. Or at least, this is what I imagine happen at the beginning. A crash-course in love. The experienced woman from demo scene heaven, meets the virgin boy. They didn't make music, in the end of this story they compiled art. Bastian (ex-Blue, hand b H Jt$le: Byte) and Longword (ex-LaMer, handle: Longword), Both changed to their current nicknames around 1992 (CnS #3, 1993). Hand of pants, ehrm heart: Bastian and LaMer were exposed to be the most romantic scene couple, without doubts. EPISODE 1 (of 6) All she did was leaving a blue trace, but herself, could be described as red. LaMer was aware of her well-shaped body, long red hair, and virgin-like breasts, caught men (women?) off guard. Not necessarily tight clothes. Contrary, loose f b I #or you to image how to make space for your hands beneath. A thread of possession wanted to conquer her just there, without consequences of overshaded lust in mind. When she posted a picture of herself, to him on nemesis hQ, with a tagwall note that she was avail for his hands. Bastian downloaded the picture before the image was deleted by the sysop. And after that episode, he acknowledged the influence she had on him, with red pixels always seen in a corner of his artwork. First time b J $L it occurred was in February 1992 (Dreamia copyparty, picture 'screwed love' by Blue). So, LaMer's signum was red, Bastian's nickname was blue. She was going to change nickname to Longword at the same time Bastian took his nickname Byte (coincidence or a bidirectional relationship?). His hair was blue. Her hair red. She worked as radio technician (at least her profile provided that info from nemesis hQ), he supported customers within logistics. She liked it in the mouth her profile f b K O7Wurther revealed. But not sure if that was only a play with fantasy. However, more than rumours, was that she was constantly up to things. She was always on the run, as the lyrics explained from the hit song from Ten Sharp. Bastian met her there. First thing she said was: - I have my bag full of floppies, do you want a sneak peek? From scratch it was uncomplicated. She directed that easy flow. He said yes, followed her to lady's rest room and when he grabbed out some floppies, he b L :r underwear was kind of there as well. She didn't care about the underwear, nor that he grabbed them, or that they were not exactly dry. What she cared of, was to observe his reaction. And the more he let his trousers tell his state, the more knobs she opened from her blouse. This story was written down on one floppy sent to me (one from her bag back in 1992?), and it also mentioned that they got interrupted there in the lady's rest room. Anyway, the episodes they met, could b M .*
be counted to six. At least the official ones that happened during parties, due submitting entries, or just attending a party). LaMer was a member in nemesis, the group where you had to be a woman to qualify. But her entrance and exit in the group (still a member of nemesis?) was diffuse. After that first meeting on the Dreamia copy party and back to his house in Coburg, Bavaria, southern Germany. Here, Bastian detected the red traces on his keyboard. And we know this, because he wro b N te about that, like someone hacked his computer or at least penetrated it's surface. This announcement came out on different irc-channels and I assume it was later he realized that LaMer was the one leaving this trace. The red colour on the keys (virgin's colour, or sign of love?), was indeed spelled 'FCK ME' with the enter-key dark painted to emphasise this action to enrole. At the time Bastian realized this message himself, he removed the picture and his announcement. But he came b b O 㔿Zack on irc some later announcing that now all was washed away, but that someone had coloured the key 'B' (for Bastian, Blue?). We never know. I could just imagine that both LaMer and Blue made contact at this point, emptying whatever was in his nerdy mind and filled her multiple times. After that no more irc-shouts were made. FCK ME, echoed in his head. She emptied Pandora's box, to make room for more. EPISODE 2 (of 6) Back in June 1992, it started with messages. A flirt? A continuat b P .V3ion of unfinished hot business? Most of the messages were on tagwalls and it wasn't difficult to see her being online. But some seem to have been physically closer. That required some phantasy to fill the gaps, glued with observations to pay attention to a girl to read between the lines. Bastian a.k.a Blue had both fantasy and was observant but wasn't sure. For example, one time, he found some small notes with a thin pen as left a message on his disposable coffee cup. The ink formed b Q `0some kind of symbol, it looked like a chair, or a seat. She can't be serious, he thought when staring at the blue ink. Is she referring to the group Stoned Suns symbols? Is she a member there under another alias? He knew that LaMer was member of nemesis, or was she anymore? At the yearly event of Cassembly in Finland (C and assembler code under one event). Bastian-Blue had his demo with some fellows ready. Blue started to think using the lower registers of Corpus Callosum, more seen b R _as the rear parts of the brain. Who on Earth had written a greet in the scroller on their demo? He remembered he left his source code up and took a coffee. Later that night, she came over to him while he was laying down under their table for a nap. - I know that you want me, she whispered. His answer was a mumble. To convince him to follow him, she continued with soft voice. - This is complicated, its no plug n play, you can stick it in anywhere. I guess that convinced him. They sh b S ared the night in nemesis car. And in the morning, he started to draw an image of her posing as model ('She' by Byte, Graphite party, Denmark, October 1993). The party was over, and he suffered for lust to be with her again. This void, limbo of erotic dreams to catch her again. After Cassembly '92, on the ferry home, she was nowhere to be seen. Wasn't sure if she got lift with nemesis in their car. Back home in Coburg, it was like the artist chip Denise herself had drawn her brush t b T ,1Vo his outer world, leaving the safe Amiga case between the CPU and DMA channels where she used to be plugged. Bastian could once again not understand this message. Written with solid red letters of course, but he concluded it was from LaMer and her red signum. His colour was blue but the red colour was not on the B-key like last year. This time the brush was on grid (#), percentage (%) and the number 1 and 9. Games like this excited him. The characters #% was indicating a number, and b U O+ 19 or 91 was the number. He was confused of this new sign. He carefully detached the keys and examined them. It was lipstick of red colour. He was impressed how she could enclose her lips around the keys like that. But no other sign was found. Only sinners or stalkers would know if they met some more that year. EPISODE 3 (of 6) The year 1993 for LaMer and Blue, started with a change of handle, synchronized for them. She explained for first time her handle in his message-box. - I lik b V Be the ocean, and the colour of your alias Blue. It's pronounced la mer, French for ocean. - I thought it was something else, he replied, referring to the camel-styled syntax. - LaMer? No space needed, she replied. And continued: But with a wedge you can spread it open. Wedges are there to get space were space was occupied before. You can fill my spaces, she smiled invitingly. Of course, this piece of information stunned him. Was she from France originally? It was easier to c b W Come in her than to get information out of her obviously. That night, who knows if it was spent together, and in the morning, they changed alias from LaMer to Longword, and Bastian changed to Byte. A silent agreement. But apart from the floppy disk with this information, nemesis updated the group information about their members, and Bastian tagged a picture at Graphite party in the end of 1993 revealing his change to Byte. The third official meeting between Longword and Byte was conse b X "quently at Cassembly in June 1993. While we suspect that he was penetrating her, there must have been she who penetrated him, or his code at least. Bastian didn't know much of her, but she whispered to him while her gentle fingers danced over his chest in an empty sleeping hall while a boring PC demo show. - Did you figure out number 19 yet on your keyboard? - No, how could I? - Well, go to your computer and check your code at that line then, she teased. That was not the kind of an b Y swer you want to hear in this situation, but he knew that she was serious. He rushed back to his computer and scrolled down to line 19. He didn't see anything, but he loaded a previous version of his long worked demo since Cassembly last year and saw at line 19 the reason why he couldn't compile that line, line: [19]: Try me as many times as my age for the next week after Cassembly 1993 ps: I'm not 91 years, other way around, fool *lol* When Bastian came back to her, still open a b Z 5nd ready for a continuation (who wants to go and visit a boring PC demo show anyhow?) she declared her love that they were like two paired copper instructions. One red and one blue. - That's actually four instructions, if you count the waits between, he said. - That can be optimized, she smiled back. That night at lady's rest room, it was told that Amazona/nemesis hold guard at door so there was no interruption in their 'performance'. Amazona was discrete and left before they opene b [ 9d the bathroom door. Speaking about performance, it was also told that Bastian, aka Byte and Longword, managed a quickie with a background music of the floppy clicking sound counted to 79 tracks. A playful amusement together with the comment from her lips, that an unexpanded A500 does not manage to keep a floppy in df0 without change of discs. Dirty talk, no doubt, like too much noise stored in her sectors. He loved her for all that, contributing to more fantasies then the megademo b \ Y-winner by Desert Faith at Graphite copy party that year. EPISODE 4 (of 6) In spring the next year, it was time for a small meetup in Coburg, only locals, like Byte, his friends from Amiga groups and neighbouring citizens and computer communities. Bastian had prepared a small copper intro 'LLLL' . Good Spring 1994 with four L - LLLL short for love, lust, longing, and longword, to meet her once again. His friend Jens (Ober Frank/TMB was setting up his equipment and showed his newly b b ] ;̸ought Amiga 600, he sure was a fan of that machine. A few days earlier, Bastian invited her by sending a love letter in binary code. She replied with a photo of her, wearing nothing except that string of code over her body with a bed of daffodils. Thrilled by her reply, Byte asked if he could send more binaries this kind. She replied that he could if he used a proper destination. There was no entrance to pay at the party, and she came in as one of the last waving at him. At least ten b ^ 5 other guys jaw-dropped when he kissed her gently. Ober Frank actually stopped talking about his A600 for a while. This time, I think she didn't interfere with his code of the LLLL demo. Maybe, because she was all over it, or at least the meaning behind. But there was a trouble with Byte's small copper intro. - It should be red colour, he explained to her while looking at the code trying - to fix it. - Do you remember what I said to you about pairwise instructions in copper? - Yea, b _ "that it could be optimized, he replied. - Well, then look here: there was a missing word, so the copperlist was not - even, it was odd numbers of instructions. Byte was impressed. She seemed to hover over his clothes, like she was lefthanded rolling a mouse over a bumpy pad. He noticed that optimizing was not to add an instruction. Instead, she deleted two wait instructions and the one for colour red. Then she replaced red with purple colour, #$(80,00,80). With softness she whispered b ` !: - My love, this is a mix of you and me, this is our product, This is Purple. EPISODE 5 (of 6) All thought their relationship looked like a paired copper instruction, where the beam wait instruction was set for a meeting or two every year, I am sure they met more. However, the next meeting that was officially, at least stated as scene news in the diskmag F.L.O.P.P.Y by Goths. Once again, she came back to him, again Spring time leaving over a daffodil with her smell attached o b a qn the flower like dew drops. Bastian had pulled out electricity through cables with generators behind an old industrial area, crossing some dikes and into a harvest field, some 300 meters out to an old oak tree. He had her at 'hello world', she said. and I waited as your slave copper instruction, was his reply. With blindfolded eyes he led her gently down to the oak, where a picnic was set up, and some of the best chip modules played from that time like Miffler, Django, Jean-C and wi b b &zardking to mention a few good composers. Also, Amazona/nemesis was in his playlist, due the closeness of her group and loyal friend to Longword. At this place in 1995 he asked for her hand, and they married without witnesses. EPISODE 6 (of 6) Some say real party is outside, in fact if you ask Byte and Longword, its inside. The best time to make love under the table is before the intro compo. Regardless how little sleep you have got, no matter how twisted your daily and night hours b c ECare, competitions are for most computer people kind of holy (see appendix C, A.o.S, 1993). Excitement while waiting for the compo in the front of the all. Excitement and legs around hips in the back of the party hall. The keyboard was down to nearly every single key pressed due the weight. He opened up Deluxe paint and let the faith decide. It's a sin to violated the Amiga this way, but an exception had to be made. The hips on the hardware rolled in waves over from functional keys do b d wn to space and back again. Sad that it wasn't an Atari we massacre he pressed out between his teeth. A shiver and a smile back were the silent answer before she looked at the screen, it was some kind of abstract nonsense painted. Not beautiful but it was some kind of avant-garde art made right there while the others were looking at the intro compo. According to the floppy I got to retell this story, the pixels were purple while she answered: - Only an Amiga could make this real. She b e q saved the image they made that night and handed it over it over to free style graphics compo. EPILOGUE The graphic entry called 'the product of red and blue' was not beautiful, or the best. But somehow, this love couple had created a legendary aura around them, rumours about them, images, tagwall-messages and the way they were symbiotic twinned. If the demo scene ever was a bunch of movies, then this story would fall under the category of 'True romance'. And the scene needed some ki b f nd of color than just the pure bits of 0 and 1. Their entry in free style graphic did not end up last. It got a place in the middle. Just like in the middle between a byte (B) and a Longword (L). In 1996, their daughter Wendela was born, or W for Word. Retold by Sanite/Arty .END - - - All characters, groups, releases and places are fictive and lack any kind of truth or realism. In case of meetings with the real world, its pure coincidental. The scene novel is written for you coffee t b g 8yo taste better. Sce-fi, or Scene Fiction is genre that the author has invented in the 90s and over years polished. PT-Weekender event #8 - 'Atlantis calling' ------------------------------------------ - event report by tecon/pjz^dsr been released to the public ten years ago at the Revision party in 2014 - on the very same date. Don't know In the abyss o b h SAf amiga oddities, a what it does? In short, it's a dj team of djs unocvers the lost club friendly mod player for any Amiga experience. model. Just what the kids want! Set up two Amigas with a mixer and start It had been passed off as a fairy decoding those musical imprints from tale. Too fantastical, sensational, the mythical age when bedroom contradicting the assumptions of b i T F produced lo-res audio vibrated thru learned scholars. You'd be a fool to our ears. Apply new flavours from believe such nonsense! However, a new amiga composers of today and launch tool dubbed PT-1210 turned the tables your own expedition into the fabled on that. four channels of Paula mystique. INTRO A growing number of believers in This edition of the PT-Weekender paid these ancient p b j mowers have since homage to that software, it having indulged in the possibilities offered by PT-1210, leading to such crazy THE PRODUCERS happenings like the one we'll look at I mentioned XSM. What's an XSM? Fair here. Hence having the celebration question. Is it artificial was a timely concideration. intelligence? A fusebox? A mere human being? Let's be fair and settle for SPECIFICS b k if you move to another country. Jazz is now making a point of catching up with his old colleagues. After the death of his colleague Wave, everyone has become painfully aware of how quickly a life can come to an end. Arcane, who funnily enough now lives with his family around the corner from me in Germany, was also there. Dan from Lemon was also present, friendly as ever. Of course we were all curious if he had brought something new from his home country. But unfortunately nothing ca b ;jmme out from Lemon. at the Revision. What I didn't know until now was that Dan also programmed a lot of Atari ST demos in the past. A look at the Demozoo database revealed this. Also present was Demozoo contributor and Atari specialist Lotek Style, who didn't want to miss out on the other computer systems' competitions. The female graphician Luisa was in visibly good spirits, after she had finished to maintain the graphic compos. At some point and was really pleased that she had been b <$K able to complete her studies in the meantime. Curt Cool was also running around. Is that man really getting older? Somehow he still seems to be 20 years young. Hey FBI, NSA and ther secret services! This man must own a secret time machine. I bet he does! I also got to see -pOWL! from Alcatraz. Fortunately this group is now active again on the Amiga. He and his mates have pooled the money to officially sponsor the Revision Party in 2024! One of them even used money from his house loa b =XM8n, which he didn't need at the time. Oh wow, that's really great. COLLECTING VOTESHEETS ON A PARTY PLACE IS A F*CKING BAD IDEA! Right at the entrance I met the famous but friendly graphic artist Klas aka Prowler, who presented and sold all the books of his series 'The Masters of Pixel Art'. You can read more about them here: https://nicepixel.se. What I could see was of a very high quality. If you want to save some of the best Amiga graphics on paper, you should think about ordering b >athese books. I then ambushed him with a votesheet for Versus. Later and at the next day he was always busy with potential customers or his computer painting new stuff. I didn't want to disturb him. So I've got no votesheet back of course. ;-( Collecting filled out paper votesheets for Versus was extremely difficult. I was already optimistic and brought 25 printed sheets to the party place, but only Doc K., SelectaNovel and Dirtie from Moods Plateau filled them out. I gave many people b ?] a votesheet along with a free pen of my website tarnkappe.info, which they were allowed to keep anyway. But it still didn't help. 'Yes, I'll fill it out later' or 'Not now, please, I have no time', were the standard replies. Sadly, I have the impression since a long time, that the days of any charts are over. Tell me, how did the group Static Bytes manage to publish their Eurocharts every few weeks back then? It was an incredible effort. Okay, they were in school and had more free t b @">Pime. But you still have to do it first. SOME PEOPLE WERE STILL MISSING! The days flew by. It was nice to be back after the end of the Corona Pandemic. And somehow it seemed as if nothing had changed. About three quarters of the guests are always the same anyway, plus a few who turn up unexpectedly or are absent every year. Norby couldn't make it for personal reasons, Critikill was on holiday. Dipswitch, Ozan, StingRay, Virgill and a few other regular visitors were also absent. Well, b Ax. it's also annoying for the family when the husband or father misses this event each and every year. So it's understandable that some visitors took some time off for the sake of the family. See you next year? Definitely maybe. I don't know, it was all very well organised - thanks to the orga team for this great event and friendly atmosphere! And the competitions were great, really! But somehow I didn't really get the spark. It's always the same somehow. Well, let's see. Party rappor b BI+t Reunion Party 2024 by Smaugur/Nukleus Kvidinge). After we went home at 22:00 a clock I The party started at 28/6-2024 @ feel that I needed to check if I had 17:00 we Smaugur^nls and saiibot^nls Covid or not because I didn't feel started to watch the party stream @ a the taste of the French fries that pub in Hornstull/Stockholm/Sweden the pub had, but after a b C.Y, negative 21:00 and talking about the coming result on my Covid home test I feel a Saturday day 29/6-2024 over a beer relief because now I could go to the when we should take the train to the Reunion party in Kvidinge instead of Reunion party in Kvidinge/Sweden isolating myself from others until I (Kvidinge is a small place in south get well at home (In Stockholm City). of Sweden near the town Helsingborg) So, I SMS saiibot my result from b DOCthe on discord I talked with the party test and went to bed @ 23:30, organizers, who was curious to know 28/6-2024. On the morning my alarm when we were supposed to come to the rang at 06:30 or train to Kvidinge party, (The train trip was supposed should take of @ 08:20 in the morning take 6 hours from Stockholm/Sweden to I packed my laptop and went straight arrived at the party place! (14:00 on away to new a b E^dventures! the Saturday). When a familiar man showed up in front of the entrance, To the PAAAARTY!!! AMIGA!!!! it was Blueberry^Loonies and I was Starstruck (but I didn't tell him Me saiibot^nls to the fast train from that of course) and we saiibot, the Stockholm Central station, all Bluberry and I took a photo outside. right let's fast forward the tape b FvIydto one stop when we nearly missed a bus And after that we needed to take more @ one change between train and bus we tables to the Reunion party place, were on the wrong side of the Amiga groups represented were: terminal! And the bus was supposed to PACiF!C, Scoopex, LNS, HMF (Hardcore leave in just a few minutes! OHH Mofokkahz), Up rough, Istari, Struts, NOOO!!! Well, the story went well in Tulou, One Desire, TMB, Software of the end! :) b GTIlAnd after I have run with Sweden, Desire, Nectarine, Eternal huge luggage, (because saiibot had and Nukleus. We were totally 45 his desktop computer in a big bag), people attending the party some we were on the right track again! people couldn't show up, but it was Cousy and nice atmosphere at the Reunion party here we come, NOTHING party place! can STOP US!! L O b H%